Author Topic: Socialists and Communists Plan to Take Over the Democratic Party  (Read 889 times)

Offline Cavebear

Re: Socialists and Communists Plan to Take Over the Democratic Party
« Reply #30 on: September 27, 2018, 01:29:28 PM »
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To say that something has gone "tits up" is basically the same meaning as saying that something has gone down the drain.

Given a basic assumption that all phrases make some sense at the time they were used, "down the drain" doesn't make any...
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Re: Socialists and Communists Plan to Take Over the Democratic Party
« Reply #31 on: September 27, 2018, 01:31:43 PM »
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Given a basic assumption that all phrases make some sense at the time they were used, "down the drain" doesn't make any...

To say that something has gone "down the drain" is to say that something has gotten very bad or that something has gone from bad to worse, or to say that something has collapsed or become corrupt, etc.

That makes sense to say.

Offline Cavebear

Re: Socialists and Communists Plan to Take Over the Democratic Party
« Reply #32 on: September 27, 2018, 01:35:11 PM »
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To say that something has gone "down the drain" is to say that something has gotten very bad or that something has gone from bad to worse, or to say that something has collapsed or become corrupt, etc.

That makes sense to say.

Wow, I never realized that!  Thank you.  You are the wind under my wings...
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Re: Socialists and Communists Plan to Take Over the Democratic Party
« Reply #33 on: September 27, 2018, 02:16:56 PM »
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Wow, I never realized that!  Thank you.  You are the wind under my wings...

You asked what "tits up" meant. I explained that it had a similar meaning to "down the drain"... you then said that "down the drain" made no sense...  I then explained how it did make sense... you then respond with sarcasm and as if you already knew. Okay then.

Offline Cavebear

Re: Socialists and Communists Plan to Take Over the Democratic Party
« Reply #34 on: September 27, 2018, 02:21:50 PM »
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You asked what "tits up" meant. I explained that it had a similar meaning to "down the drain"... you then said that "down the drain" made no sense...  I then explained how it did make sense... you then respond with sarcasm and as if you already knew. Okay then.

"tits up" and "down the drain" have no logical connection.  That's all there was to my post.
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Offline SGOS

Re: Socialists and Communists Plan to Take Over the Democratic Party
« Reply #35 on: September 27, 2018, 02:26:37 PM »
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What DOES "tits up" mean anyway?  I've never been able to make sense of that.  Field dressing a prey animal  ""teats up"?
I've always assumed it was exactly that.  Flat on your back dead.

Offline Cavebear

Re: Socialists and Communists Plan to Take Over the Democratic Party
« Reply #36 on: September 27, 2018, 02:28:42 PM »
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I've always assumed it was exactly that.  Flat on your back dead.

Thank you.  A clear statement of logical original meaning...
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Re: Socialists and Communists Plan to Take Over the Democratic Party
« Reply #37 on: September 27, 2018, 05:02:05 PM »
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"tits up" and "down the drain" have no logical connection.  That's all there was to my post.

I wasn't saying that they had a logical connection. I was saying that "tits up" has similar meaning to "down the drain."

If I say X has gone tits up... that's saying the same sort of thing as if I were to say that X has gone down the drain.

You said you've never understood what "tits up" meant... so I tried to explain the meaning of tits up to you.

Offline Baruch

Re: Socialists and Communists Plan to Take Over the Democratic Party
« Reply #38 on: September 27, 2018, 07:23:37 PM »
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OK, "I LIKE IKE".  Smart politician, too.  Trans US highways as "defense", LOL!

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Offline Baruch

Re: Socialists and Communists Plan to Take Over the Democratic Party
« Reply #39 on: September 27, 2018, 07:24:58 PM »
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To say that something has gone "down the drain" is to say that something has gotten very bad or that something has gone from bad to worse, or to say that something has collapsed or become corrupt, etc.

That makes sense to say.

Yes, but the turd isn't tits up right away.  It has to go down the drain first.  Then it ends up in the Thames River, where it is either a floater or a sinker (stinker).
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Offline Baruch

Re: Socialists and Communists Plan to Take Over the Democratic Party
« Reply #40 on: September 27, 2018, 07:25:38 PM »
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Thank you.  A clear statement of logical original meaning...

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Offline Hakurei Reimu

Re: Socialists and Communists Plan to Take Over the Democratic Party
« Reply #41 on: September 27, 2018, 07:33:29 PM »
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"tits up" and "down the drain" have no logical connection.  That's all there was to my post.
"Tits up" probably comes from the same family of expressions as "belly up" — which makes a condition that applies to livestock (implying that the livestock is dead and no good or in a dire condition) to things other than livestock, and implying a similar condition.

"Down the drain" is giving up something for a loss, the same way you would give up on a washcloth that went down the drain of your toilet.

Metaphors are not really that hard.
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Offline Jason Harvestdancer

Re: Socialists and Communists Plan to Take Over the Democratic Party
« Reply #42 on: September 30, 2018, 10:44:50 PM »
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Socialism and communism are different so they ought not to be lumped together.

There are forms of socialism that are very just. Free healthcare is an example.

And socialism isn't opposed to democracy... it's opposed to capitalism.

I am not particularly interested in the economic side of politics, I'm more interested in social issues, but when it comes to economy I think a mixture of socialism and capitalism is the best bet.

Socialism is collective ownership of the means of production.  Not a safety net.  Not welfare.  Not regulations.
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Offline Hydra009

Re: Socialists and Communists Plan to Take Over the Democratic Party
« Reply #43 on: September 30, 2018, 10:56:50 PM »
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Socialism is collective ownership of the means of production.  Not a safety net.  Not welfare.  Not regulations.
Please spread the word to the GOP.

Offline Jason Harvestdancer

Re: Socialists and Communists Plan to Take Over the Democratic Party
« Reply #44 on: September 30, 2018, 11:22:38 PM »
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Please spread the word to the GOP.

Whenever Republicans use the word "Socialism" to criticize the safety net, there are many Democrats, Socialists, Greens, etc, quick to correct them on that point.  But whenever someone uses the word "Socialism" to praise the safety net, nobody except me corrects them.

If it is wrong to use it in criticism, it is wrong to use it in praise.
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