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Offline Baruch

Re: Socialists and Communists Plan to Take Over the Democratic Party
« Reply #15 on: September 23, 2018, 02:44:19 PM »
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No, it was Ike and then Nixon.  You might recall the Repubs calling all Democrats "commies.  Convenient memory you have it is.

That was because of Korea.  But Ike did solve the Korean problem, for that time, when he visited while still in uniform, before the 1952 election.  He said that the Norks had to agree to a cease fire or he wouldn't be as tolerant as MacArthur.  They got the message.
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Offline Cavebear

Re: Socialists and Communists Plan to Take Over the Democratic Party
« Reply #16 on: September 23, 2018, 02:46:34 PM »
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That was because of Korea.  But Ike did solve the Korean problem, for that time, when he visited while still in uniform, before the 1952 election.  He said that the Norks had to agree to a cease fire or he wouldn't be as tolerant as MacArthur.  They got the message.

Right.  When did the war end, BTW?
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Offline Baruch

Re: Socialists and Communists Plan to Take Over the Democratic Party
« Reply #17 on: September 23, 2018, 02:47:49 PM »
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Right.  When did the war end, BTW?

The hot war ended.  The cold war continues still.
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Offline Cavebear

Re: Socialists and Communists Plan to Take Over the Democratic Party
« Reply #18 on: September 23, 2018, 02:54:26 PM »
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The hot war ended.  The cold war continues still.

My point.  N Korea is bargaining to get the war declared over.  But we never declared on, LOL!
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Offline Baruch

Re: Socialists and Communists Plan to Take Over the Democratic Party
« Reply #19 on: September 23, 2018, 02:56:34 PM »
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My point.  N Korea is bargaining to get the war declared over.  But we never declared on, LOL!

They were tough negotiators.  They wanted to declare themselves the winner, and tell us to get the hell out.  The Kim family is mighty brassy.

Ike wasn't negotiating, and they understood that.  Had MacArthur been allowed to go nuclear, we would live in a very different world, assuming we were even alive.
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Offline Cavebear

Re: Socialists and Communists Plan to Take Over the Democratic Party
« Reply #20 on: September 23, 2018, 03:02:07 PM »
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They were tough negotiators.  They wanted to declare themselves the winner, and tell us to get the hell out.  The Kim family is mighty brassy.

Ike wasn't negotiating, and they understood that.  Had MacArthur been allowed to go nuclear, we would live in a very different world, assuming we were even alive.

The A bombs on Japan were one thing.  We didn't truly understand what they did.  The same in N Korea would have been with malice aforethought.  Very different.
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Offline Hakurei Reimu

Re: Socialists and Communists Plan to Take Over the Democratic Party
« Reply #21 on: September 24, 2018, 07:27:09 PM »
At this point, socialists and communists seem more democratic than the rethuglicans.
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Offline Baruch

Re: Socialists and Communists Plan to Take Over the Democratic Party
« Reply #22 on: September 24, 2018, 07:38:08 PM »
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At this point, socialists and communists seem more democratic than the rethuglicans.

Democracy ... a Nazi and a Stalinist discussing how to split Poland.

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Re: Socialists and Communists Plan to Take Over the Democratic Party
« Reply #23 on: September 27, 2018, 07:03:24 AM »
Socialism and communism are different so they ought not to be lumped together.

There are forms of socialism that are very just. Free healthcare is an example.

And socialism isn't opposed to democracy... it's opposed to capitalism.

I am not particularly interested in the economic side of politics, I'm more interested in social issues, but when it comes to economy I think a mixture of socialism and capitalism is the best bet.

Offline Cavebear

Re: Socialists and Communists Plan to Take Over the Democratic Party
« Reply #24 on: September 27, 2018, 07:10:56 AM »
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Socialism and communism are different so they ought not to be lumped together.

There are forms of socialism that are very just. Free healthcare is an example.

And socialism isn't opposed to democracy... it's opposed to capitalism.

I am not particularly interested in the economic side of politics, I'm more interested in social issues, but when it comes to economy I think a mixture of socialism and capitalism is the best bet.

I'll agree that socialism and capitalism combined carefully are a good bet, but you will get arguments about that here. 
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Offline Baruch

Re: Socialists and Communists Plan to Take Over the Democratic Party
« Reply #25 on: September 27, 2018, 01:05:54 PM »
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Socialism and communism are different so they ought not to be lumped together.

There are forms of socialism that are very just. Free healthcare is an example.

And socialism isn't opposed to democracy... it's opposed to capitalism.

I am not particularly interested in the economic side of politics, I'm more interested in social issues, but when it comes to economy I think a mixture of socialism and capitalism is the best bet.

Called a mixed political economy.  But it doesn't work if you have one or more extremist parties involved.  That is unstable, it will always go tits-up.  In the US, the mixed economy started dying in the jungles of Vietnam and Watts.  The FDR zombie can only ramble on for so long.  In GB, the mixed political economy started being under PM Thatcher.
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Offline Cavebear

Re: Socialists and Communists Plan to Take Over the Democratic Party
« Reply #26 on: September 27, 2018, 01:09:41 PM »
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Called a mixed political economy.  But it doesn't work if you have one or more extremist parties involved.  That is unstable, it will always go tits-up.  In the US, the mixed economy started dying in the jungles of Vietnam and Watts.  The FDR zombie can only ramble on for so long.  In GB, the mixed political economy started being under PM Thatcher.

A mixed economy is more flexible.

What DOES "tits up" mean anyway?  I've never been able to make sense of that.  Field dressing a prey animal  ""teats up"?
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Offline Baruch

Re: Socialists and Communists Plan to Take Over the Democratic Party
« Reply #27 on: September 27, 2018, 01:11:14 PM »
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No, it was Ike and then Nixon.  You might recall the Repubs calling all Democrats "commies.  Convenient memory you have it is.

I would be happy with Zombie Ike as dictator.  He didn't support Sen McCarthy ... when he attacked the Army brass.
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Offline Cavebear

Re: Socialists and Communists Plan to Take Over the Democratic Party
« Reply #28 on: September 27, 2018, 01:16:14 PM »
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I would be happy with Zombie Ike as dictator.  He didn't support Sen McCarthy ... when he attacked the Army brass.

OK, "I LIKE IKE".  Smart politician, too.  Trans US highways as "defense", LOL!
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Re: Socialists and Communists Plan to Take Over the Democratic Party
« Reply #29 on: September 27, 2018, 01:21:41 PM »
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A mixed economy is more flexible.

What DOES "tits up" mean anyway?  I've never been able to make sense of that.  Field dressing a prey animal  ""teats up"?

To say that something has gone "tits up" is basically the same meaning as saying that something has gone down the drain.

 

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