Author Topic: If God doesnt wish, you cant wish  (Read 4782 times)

Re: If God doesnt wish, you cant wish
« Reply #45 on: September 13, 2018, 04:57:47 PM »
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If you liked On the Beach you might enjoy You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login, if you haven't already read it.
I tried reading The Last Ship a year ago.  Read the jacket and just knew it would love it!  Something about the writing style drove me nuts and I did not even finish it.  That is a rare thing for me.  Watched a few of the episodes of the TV show, and the same thing happened.  They became too outlandish and I haven't watched one for quite awhile.
Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?
Then he is not omnipotent,
Is he able but not willing?
Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able or willing?
Then why call him god?

Re: If God doesnt wish, you cant wish
« Reply #46 on: September 13, 2018, 05:16:19 PM »
I didn't even know there was a TV show until this morning.
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"Woe to thee, O land, when thy king is a child,"
Ecclesiastes 10:16
Or: Woe to thee, O land, when thy king is batshit crazy.

Re: If God doesnt wish, you cant wish
« Reply #47 on: September 13, 2018, 05:47:17 PM »
I don't know Mike, I just watched the trailer for the first season of The Last Ship, and it doesn't look like the book I remember.
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"Woe to thee, O land, when thy king is a child,"
Ecclesiastes 10:16
Or: Woe to thee, O land, when thy king is batshit crazy.

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Re: If God doesnt wish, you cant wish
« Reply #48 on: September 13, 2018, 06:54:37 PM »
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I don't know Mike, I just watched the trailer for the first season of The Last Ship, and it doesn't look like the book I remember.

Usually the book is much smaller than the ship ;-)  And is just walls of text, no video.
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Re: If God doesnt wish, you cant wish
« Reply #49 on: September 13, 2018, 10:06:34 PM »
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I don't know Mike, I just watched the trailer for the first season of The Last Ship, and it doesn't look like the book I remember.
I think you are correct.  it did not follow the book in most respects.  I did not care for the TV show, either.
Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?
Then he is not omnipotent,
Is he able but not willing?
Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able or willing?
Then why call him god?

Offline Cavebear

Re: If God doesnt wish, you cant wish
« Reply #50 on: September 15, 2018, 01:01:48 AM »
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I never thought of sci-fi as a prediction of the future.  At first, I thought of them as simply adventures--Tom Swift and all that.  Edgar Rice Burroughs brought fantasy into my life--especially John Carter on Mars and Pellucidar.  And Robert A Heinlein brought social commentary.  My fav. sci-fi and fantasy writers were those who worked social commentary into their stories.

I more often think of modern sci-fi as thoughtful social speculation.  What I like to read is more thought about how existing society might change in the future than Buck Rogers nonsense.  That's just adventurism.
Atheist born, atheist bred.  And when I die, atheist dead!

Offline Baruch

Re: If God doesnt wish, you cant wish
« Reply #51 on: September 15, 2018, 06:11:38 AM »
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I more often think of modern sci-fi as thoughtful social speculation.  What I like to read is more thought about how existing society might change in the future than Buck Rogers nonsense.  That's just adventurism.

No doubt, you prefer Ming the Merciless ;-)
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luu shalmaata luu balt’aata
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Re: If God doesnt wish, you cant wish
« Reply #52 on: September 27, 2018, 07:10:23 AM »
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I am on the way of being deist.
I think Richard dawkins is deist, too...At the most positive point of view, he is agnostik atheist.

He is an agnostic atheist, yes. So he can't be a deist.

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Re: If God doesnt wish, you cant wish
« Reply #53 on: September 27, 2018, 08:07:57 AM »
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No doubt, you prefer Ming the Merciless ;-)

Wrong, as usual.
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Offline Baruch

Re: If God doesnt wish, you cant wish
« Reply #54 on: September 27, 2018, 12:44:41 PM »
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Wrong, as usual.

OK, so you prefer Princess Aura?
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luu shalmaata luu balt’aata
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Offline Cavebear

Re: If God doesnt wish, you cant wish
« Reply #55 on: September 27, 2018, 12:49:30 PM »
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OK, so you prefer Princess Aura?
I do not accept the reality of ny in that book.  Nor any other fiction.  Enjoying reading them does not imply belief.
Atheist born, atheist bred.  And when I die, atheist dead!

Offline Baruch

Re: If God doesnt wish, you cant wish
« Reply #56 on: September 27, 2018, 12:55:13 PM »
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I do not accept the reality of ny in that book.  Nor any other fiction.  Enjoying reading them does not imply belief.

Didn't say you did.  And it is clear you aren't 5 years old.  However entertainment is often ... what if?  What entertains people isn't necessarily rational or ethical.
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luu shalmaata luu balt’aata
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Offline Cavebear

Re: If God doesnt wish, you cant wish
« Reply #57 on: September 27, 2018, 12:58:58 PM »
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Didn't say you did.  And it is clear you aren't 5 years old.  However entertainment is often ... what if?  What entertains people isn't necessarily rational or ethical.

That's why I can read Tolkien.  The willing suspension of disbelief.  And BTW, I just ordered the new trilogy in hardback.  Christopher says "thats the end".
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Re: If God doesnt wish, you cant wish
« Reply #58 on: September 27, 2018, 01:12:18 PM »
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That's why I can read Tolkien.  The willing suspension of disbelief.  And BTW, I just ordered the new trilogy in hardback.  Christopher says "thats the end".

Is that how you read political platforms?  Seems that is how most people read them.
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luu shalmaata luu balt’aata
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Offline Cavebear

Re: If God doesnt wish, you cant wish
« Reply #59 on: October 01, 2018, 03:02:36 PM »
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Is that how you read political platforms?  Seems that is how most people read them.

I never pay any attention to politic platforms.  And I pay no attention to candidate speeches either.  I pay attention to what parties and candidates have done in the past. 
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