70% of Americans now support Medicare for All

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Baruch

Quote from: Unbeliever on September 04, 2018, 01:19:53 PM
Here's story from 5 years ago:

Arizona Firefighters Charge Family Nearly $20,000 After Home Burns Down

Privatized fire/police is nothing but a protection racket.

Collectivized services are nothing but communist.  But then I like Putin.  On that basis, hospitals that charge $100,000 for a vital operation, should be shot.
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Cavebear

Quote from: trdsf on September 02, 2018, 05:34:47 AM
And, medical decisions need to be made by medical professionals trying to protect a patient's health.  Not accountants trying to protect a corporate bottom line.

Simply put, privatized health care doesn't work.  It's not cost effective, it isn't universal, and it frequently prioritizes private profits over the medical needs of the patient.

Well said!  Let Coke vs Pepsi, Ford vs Toyota, New Balance vs Nike fight out the commercial world.  But medical care is too important.  Its as if there were all roads owned by companies or air subscribed to users by corporations.
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Baruch

Quote from: Cavebear on September 08, 2018, 04:24:22 AM
Well said!  Let Coke vs Pepsi, Ford vs Toyota, New Balance vs Nike fight out the commercial world.  But medical care is too important.  Its as if there were all roads owned by companies or air subscribed to users by corporations.

Shh, you are revealing the long term privatization plans of the Rentier class.  Something that would benefit you, if you lived long enough.
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Unbeliever

The GOP wants to take away take away health care from the working class so they can give more wealth care to the super rich.
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Baruch

Quote from: Unbeliever on September 09, 2018, 07:45:00 PM
The GOP wants to take away take away health care from the working class so they can give more wealth care to the super rich.

Republicans aren't a separate species.  Same species as you and me.  We are all competing with one another, to the death.
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Jason78

Quote from: Baruch on September 09, 2018, 10:37:41 PM
Same species as you and me.  We are all competing with one another, to the death.

We're a social species.   We're suppose to live together and help each other.
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Baruch

Quote from: Jason78 on September 11, 2018, 02:09:32 PM
We're a social species.   We're suppose to live together and help each other.

As in, help others to rob and kill?  We do help, but help isn't necessarily good for you.  Sorry, socialism is two edged.  The Nazis and Stalinists were social too.
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Cavebear

Quote from: Unbeliever on September 09, 2018, 07:45:00 PM
The GOP wants to take away take away health care from the working class so they can give more wealth care to the super rich.

And I just heard on the news tonight that the Trump Administration took money from the electrical grid and water supply rebuilding efforts in Puerto Rico after the hurricane damage to support ICE deportation efforts.
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Cavebear

Quote from: Jason78 on September 11, 2018, 02:09:32 PM
We're a social species.   We're suppose to live together and help each other.

The basic purpose of forming a government is to organize and share defense, distribute resources, and enforce laws.  We create a government for "the general welfare" of us all.  Not to provide power-hungry people means to enrich themselves at the expense of the rest or satisfy their desire to rule others.

And because of that, I will say that some basic understandings have been perverted.  Corporations are not "people".  Spending money is not "free speech", political control of local governments does not mean you can gerrymander voting districts to minimize your opposition, and making it difficult for opponents to vote is not "democracy".
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Baruch

Quote from: Cavebear on September 12, 2018, 01:54:53 AM
The basic purpose of forming a government is to organize and share defense, distribute resources, and enforce laws.  We create a government for "the general welfare" of us all.  Not to provide power-hungry people means to enrich themselves at the expense of the rest or satisfy their desire to rule others.

And because of that, I will say that some basic understandings have been perverted.  Corporations are not "people".  Spending money is not "free speech", political control of local governments does not mean you can gerrymander voting districts to minimize your opposition, and making it difficult for opponents to vote is not "democracy".

Thanks Benjamin Franklin etc.  You can go back to the naive and hypocritical 18th century now.

Otherwise I would give you a like for this, because I agree with most of it.  Too bad people keep messing up our utopia of Francis Bacon (New Atlantis).
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Unbeliever

Well, this is just about what could be expected from Republicans after a huge tax cut for the rich - take the money from the poor:



Quote"The thousands of people who lost Medicaid coverage this month in Arkansas for not following newly implemented work requirements may be a sign of what’s to come in other GOP-led states.

Indiana and New Hampshire are slated to implement their Medicaid work requirements next year, and a slew of other states are awaiting approval from the Trump administration to do so."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pAOz0-vSFoY
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Baruch

The only health plan that both parties support ... is working in the cotton fields in the hot Sun.
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pr126

Quote from: Baruch on September 17, 2018, 07:48:53 PM
The only health plan that both parties support ... is working in the cotton fields in the hot Sun.
With a hat.

But when there is a “free” health care, someone, somewhere will have to pay the bill.
I think Ms. Cortez has it worked out. 

Baruch

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Quote from: pr126 on September 18, 2018, 05:59:23 AM
With a hat.

But when there is a “free” health care, someone, somewhere will have to pay the bill.
I think Ms. Cortez has it worked out.

Becoming a Congress critter, is her path to free healthcare.  Not being European, she can't try to become a European commissioner ;-)

Not that the health care dystopia can't be made more practical.  I am still tryin to square my mother's final medical bills (she died last year).  Too many cooks in the kitchen, they all want a cut of the money flow.
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pr126

Ms. Cortez is welcome to the NHS treatment any time.