Author Topic: 70% of Americans now support Medicare for All  (Read 839 times)

Offline Baruch

Re: 70% of Americans now support Medicare for All
« Reply #30 on: September 04, 2018, 01:29:16 PM »
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Here's story from 5 years ago:

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Privatized fire/police is nothing but a protection racket.

Collectivized services are nothing but communist.  But then I like Putin.  On that basis, hospitals that charge $100,000 for a vital operation, should be shot.
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Offline Cavebear

Re: 70% of Americans now support Medicare for All
« Reply #31 on: September 08, 2018, 04:24:22 AM »
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And, medical decisions need to be made by medical professionals trying to protect a patient's health.  Not accountants trying to protect a corporate bottom line.

Simply put, privatized health care doesn't work.  It's not cost effective, it isn't universal, and it frequently prioritizes private profits over the medical needs of the patient.

Well said!  Let Coke vs Pepsi, Ford vs Toyota, New Balance vs Nike fight out the commercial world.  But medical care is too important.  Its as if there were all roads owned by companies or air subscribed to users by corporations.
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Offline Baruch

Re: 70% of Americans now support Medicare for All
« Reply #32 on: September 08, 2018, 09:01:14 AM »
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Well said!  Let Coke vs Pepsi, Ford vs Toyota, New Balance vs Nike fight out the commercial world.  But medical care is too important.  Its as if there were all roads owned by companies or air subscribed to users by corporations.

Shh, you are revealing the long term privatization plans of the Rentier class.  Something that would benefit you, if you lived long enough.
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Re: 70% of Americans now support Medicare for All
« Reply #33 on: September 09, 2018, 07:45:00 PM »
The GOP wants to take away take away health care from the working class so they can give more wealth care to the super rich.
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Offline Baruch

Re: 70% of Americans now support Medicare for All
« Reply #34 on: September 09, 2018, 10:37:41 PM »
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The GOP wants to take away take away health care from the working class so they can give more wealth care to the super rich.

Republicans aren't a separate species.  Same species as you and me.  We are all competing with one another, to the death.
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Re: 70% of Americans now support Medicare for All
« Reply #35 on: September 11, 2018, 02:09:32 PM »
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Same species as you and me.  We are all competing with one another, to the death.

We're a social species.   We're suppose to live together and help each other.
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Offline Baruch

Re: 70% of Americans now support Medicare for All
« Reply #36 on: September 11, 2018, 07:36:28 PM »
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We're a social species.   We're suppose to live together and help each other.

As in, help others to rob and kill?  We do help, but help isn't necessarily good for you.  Sorry, socialism is two edged.  The Nazis and Stalinists were social too.
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Offline Cavebear

Re: 70% of Americans now support Medicare for All
« Reply #37 on: September 12, 2018, 01:45:48 AM »
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The GOP wants to take away take away health care from the working class so they can give more wealth care to the super rich.

And I just heard on the news tonight that the Trump Administration took money from the electrical grid and water supply rebuilding efforts in Puerto Rico after the hurricane damage to support ICE deportation efforts.
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Offline Cavebear

Re: 70% of Americans now support Medicare for All
« Reply #38 on: September 12, 2018, 01:54:53 AM »
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We're a social species.   We're suppose to live together and help each other.

The basic purpose of forming a government is to organize and share defense, distribute resources, and enforce laws.  We create a government for "the general welfare" of us all.  Not to provide power-hungry people means to enrich themselves at the expense of the rest or satisfy their desire to rule others.

And because of that, I will say that some basic understandings have been perverted.  Corporations are not "people".  Spending money is not "free speech", political control of local governments does not mean you can gerrymander voting districts to minimize your opposition, and making it difficult for opponents to vote is not "democracy".
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Offline Baruch

Re: 70% of Americans now support Medicare for All
« Reply #39 on: September 12, 2018, 07:13:10 AM »
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The basic purpose of forming a government is to organize and share defense, distribute resources, and enforce laws.  We create a government for "the general welfare" of us all.  Not to provide power-hungry people means to enrich themselves at the expense of the rest or satisfy their desire to rule others.

And because of that, I will say that some basic understandings have been perverted.  Corporations are not "people".  Spending money is not "free speech", political control of local governments does not mean you can gerrymander voting districts to minimize your opposition, and making it difficult for opponents to vote is not "democracy".

Thanks Benjamin Franklin etc.  You can go back to the naive and hypocritical 18th century now.

Otherwise I would give you a like for this, because I agree with most of it.  Too bad people keep messing up our utopia of Francis Bacon (New Atlantis).
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Re: 70% of Americans now support Medicare for All
« Reply #40 on: September 17, 2018, 05:21:40 PM »
Well, this is just about what could be expected from Republicans after a huge tax cut for the rich - take the money from the poor:



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Indiana and New Hampshire are slated to implement their Medicaid work requirements next year, and a slew of other states are awaiting approval from the Trump administration to do so."

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Offline Baruch

Re: 70% of Americans now support Medicare for All
« Reply #41 on: September 17, 2018, 07:48:53 PM »
The only health plan that both parties support ... is working in the cotton fields in the hot Sun.
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Offline pr126

Re: 70% of Americans now support Medicare for All
« Reply #42 on: September 18, 2018, 05:59:23 AM »
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The only health plan that both parties support ... is working in the cotton fields in the hot Sun.
With a hat.

But when there is a “free” health care, someone, somewhere will have to pay the bill.
I think Ms. Cortez has it worked out. 
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Offline Baruch

Re: 70% of Americans now support Medicare for All
« Reply #43 on: September 18, 2018, 06:01:08 AM »
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With a hat.

But when there is a “free” health care, someone, somewhere will have to pay the bill.
I think Ms. Cortez has it worked out.

Becoming a Congress critter, is her path to free healthcare.  Not being European, she can't try to become a European commissioner ;-)

Not that the health care dystopia can't be made more practical.  I am still tryin to square my mother's final medical bills (she died last year).  Too many cooks in the kitchen, they all want a cut of the money flow.
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Offline pr126

Re: 70% of Americans now support Medicare for All
« Reply #44 on: September 18, 2018, 06:03:33 AM »
Ms. Cortez is welcome to the NHS treatment any time.
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