Is America An Essentially "Uneducated" Country?

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Sal1981

Quote from: pr126 on October 30, 2018, 03:31:11 AM




Quote from: Blackleaf on October 30, 2018, 02:54:52 AM
Like I said, stop watching Fox News. You're spewing bullshit. Mischaracterizing the Left doesn't help your case. It just makes you look like an idiot.
Can you refute any of the things I mentioned, or as usual only spewing ad hominems?
Not an Ad Hominem.


An Ad Hominem would be like; you're wrong because you're an idiot, as an example. Just saying you look like an idiot isn't an argument in itself.

PopeyesPappy

No, the US is not an essentially uneducated country.

Our tertiary graduation rate is better than most countries including places like Finland, South Korea, and the UK.

Higher is better



And the US has a higher percentage of people with some type of post secondary education than most countries including places like Finland, South Korea, and the UK.

Lower is better



Charts are here.
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Blackleaf

Quote from: pr126 on October 30, 2018, 03:03:24 AM
Deny reality all you want.

I'm a Leftist, you moron. Do I hate white people? No. Am I a Socialist/Marxist? No. Do I believe in one hundred genders? No, but I don't give a shit what people choose to identify as. Am I Antifa? No. Do I believe in, use, or have ever witnessed safe spaces? No. Do I believe in open borders? No, but I believe in treating people who are here like human beings. Do I believe that Muslims are immune to criticism? Fuck no. Which people do all of these things? The strawmen Leftists you watch on Fox News and your moronic Youtube videos.

Quote from: pr126 on October 30, 2018, 03:31:11 AM
Isn’t Marxist education wonderful?
You create the voters you want.
We will see next Tuesday how effective it was.

Once again, can you prove that voter fraud is a problem? Do you have evidence? No, of course not. You're just spewing Right Wing bullshit you heard and asserting it as self-evident truth.
"Oh, wearisome condition of humanity,
Born under one law, to another bound;
Vainly begot, and yet forbidden vanity,
Created sick, commanded to be sound."
--Fulke Greville--

pr126

#48
Quote from: Blackleaf on October 30, 2018, 11:47:02 AM
I'm a Leftist, you moron. Do I hate white people? No. Am I a Socialist/Marxist? No. Do I believe in one hundred genders? No, but I don't give a shit what people choose to identify as. Am I Antifa? No. Do I believe in, use, or have ever witnessed safe spaces? No. Do I believe in open borders? No, but I believe in treating people who are here like human beings. Do I believe that Muslims are immune to criticism? Fuck no. Which people do all of these things? The strawmen Leftists you watch on Fox News and your moronic Youtube videos.

Once again, can you prove that voter fraud is a problem? Do you have evidence? No, of course not. You're just spewing Right Wing bullshit you heard and asserting it as self-evident truth.
Have I addressed the post to you? NO.
Have I actually accused you personally of any of the points I made?  NO.
Have I implied voters fraud in my post? NO.

Have you responded with ad hominem? YES.



Baruch

Quote from: Sal1981 on October 30, 2018, 08:22:06 AM
Can you refute any of the things I mentioned, or as usual only spewing ad hominems?
Not an Ad Hominem.


An Ad Hominem would be like; you're wrong because you're an idiot, as an example. Just saying you look like an idiot isn't an argument in itself.

So sophomoric or juvenile instead?
Ha’át’íísh baa naniná?
Azee’ Å,a’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
What are you doing?
Are you taking any medications?
Don't do that.

Baruch

Quote from: Blackleaf on October 30, 2018, 11:47:02 AM
I'm a Leftist, you moron. Do I hate white people? No. Am I a Socialist/Marxist? No. Do I believe in one hundred genders? No, but I don't give a shit what people choose to identify as. Am I Antifa? No. Do I believe in, use, or have ever witnessed safe spaces? No. Do I believe in open borders? No, but I believe in treating people who are here like human beings. Do I believe that Muslims are immune to criticism? Fuck no. Which people do all of these things? The strawmen Leftists you watch on Fox News and your moronic Youtube videos.

Once again, can you prove that voter fraud is a problem? Do you have evidence? No, of course not. You're just spewing Right Wing bullshit you heard and asserting it as self-evident truth.

But if you are a "straw man" Leftist ... then are you made of straw?  Is it true that Leftists are so individualist, that like gender dysphoria ... there are as many kinds of Left as their are Leftists? Just asking.
Ha’át’íísh baa naniná?
Azee’ Å,a’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
What are you doing?
Are you taking any medications?
Don't do that.

Baruch

Quote from: PopeyesPappy on October 30, 2018, 09:54:23 AM
No, the US is not an essentially uneducated country.

Our tertiary graduation rate is better than most countries including places like Finland, South Korea, and the UK.

Higher is better



And the US has a higher percentage of people with some type of post secondary education than most countries including places like Finland, South Korea, and the UK.

Lower is better



Charts are here.

You didn't get the point ... Swedish = educated, non-Swedish = non-educated.

Fact is graduation rates don't mean much if the quality is poor.  Bad quality cancels out high quantity.
Ha’át’íísh baa naniná?
Azee’ Å,a’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
What are you doing?
Are you taking any medications?
Don't do that.

Blackleaf

Quote from: pr126 on October 30, 2018, 12:44:06 PM
Have I addressed the post to you? NO.
Have I actually accused you personally of any of the points I made?  NO.
Have I implied voters fraud in my post? NO.

Have you responded with ad hominem? YES.

Do you continually generalize about Leftists? Yes.
Are you incapable of sticking to the point and addressing any counterarguments? Yes.
Do you know what an ad hominem is? Evidently, no.

You didn't imply voter fraud? Explain what this means, then:

Quote from: pr126 on October 30, 2018, 03:31:11 AMYou create the voters you want.
We will see next Tuesday how effective it was.
"Oh, wearisome condition of humanity,
Born under one law, to another bound;
Vainly begot, and yet forbidden vanity,
Created sick, commanded to be sound."
--Fulke Greville--

pr126

Quote from: Blackleaf on October 30, 2018, 11:08:14 PM
Do you continually generalize about Leftists? Yes.
Are you incapable of sticking to the point and addressing any counterarguments? Yes.
Do you know what an ad hominem is? Evidently, no.

You didn't imply voter fraud? Explain what this means, then:
"You create the voters you want.
We will see next Tuesday how effective it was."

I meant that the Marxist professors create the next generation of Democrat voters.
They turn out activist, protestors, who hate America, capitalism, in effect indoctrinating students.

That's how they create the voters they want.

GSOgymrat

Quote from: pr126 on October 30, 2018, 11:37:10 PM
I meant that the Marxist professors create the next generation of Democrat voters.
They turn out activist, protestors, who hate America, capitalism, in effect indoctrinating students.

That's how they create the voters they want.

Young Americans tend to not vote, especially in midterms, so that may put your mind at ease.

Baruch

Quote from: GSOgymrat on October 31, 2018, 12:03:51 AM
Young Americans tend to not vote, especially in midterms, so that may put your mind at ease.

I don't think anything can, for pr126.

For me ... "this too shall pass".  In one week, what will be, will be.  And it won't matter, because humanity has no value.
Ha’át’íísh baa naniná?
Azee’ Å,a’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
What are you doing?
Are you taking any medications?
Don't do that.

Hydra009

#56
Quote from: Blackleaf on October 30, 2018, 02:54:52 AMLike I said, stop watching Fox News. You're spewing bullshit. Mischaracterizing the Left doesn't help your case. It just makes you look like an idiot.
Au contraire, PR should absolutely keep it up.  And PR, please try to get as many of your right-wing friends to believe it, too.  It makes the right look completely idiotic, with the added bonus that they have no idea how to counter leftist messaging because they have no idea what Leftists actually believe.  The more you lose touch with reality (which is already pretty considerable), the more vulnerable you become.

pr126

Hey, I didn't elect Trump, it was the completely idiotic American right, who has lost touch with reality.

Apparently, America is now better off. Economy, employment, revised (beneficial) trade deals.
And migrants from all over want to live there.




Hydra009

Careful, you got dangerously close to having a coherent point. Don't break character.

Do more feminists in the closet, Muslims under the bed, and "illegals" (wink, wink) at the door type stuff.  Really clown it up.

Blackleaf

Quote from: pr126 on October 30, 2018, 11:37:10 PM
I meant that the Marxist professors create the next generation of Democrat voters.
They turn out activist, protestors, who hate America, capitalism, in effect indoctrinating students.

That's how they create the voters they want.



We've discussed this "indoctrination" bullshit already. I find I have to repeat myself with you quite often. Colleges do not indoctrinate students. How much experience do you have in the American secondary educational system? Since you're not an American, it's probably safe to assume you have none. I started college in 2007, spent nearly a decade earning my Associates, Bachelors, and Masters Degrees. Never once did I feel pressured to change my mind. Know why? Because that's not the goal of the typical college professor. College teaches students how to think, not what to think. It teaches them critical thinking skills and provides reliable sources of knowledge. College students do not tend to become Liberals because their "Marxist professors" tell them to. Students tend to lean that way because they learn how to spot the bullshit from the Right, and naturally become repelled by their ideology.
"Oh, wearisome condition of humanity,
Born under one law, to another bound;
Vainly begot, and yet forbidden vanity,
Created sick, commanded to be sound."
--Fulke Greville--