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Offline SGOS

Re: McCain
« Reply #15 on: August 27, 2018, 07:25:35 AM »
Obama, Bush Asked To Speak At John McCain’s Funeral; Trump Told To Stay Away

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President Donald Trump will not be invited to McCain’s funeral, at the request of the late senator. The White House was told of McCain’s wishes by family members before his death.

Offline Cavebear

Re: McCain
« Reply #16 on: August 27, 2018, 07:41:35 AM »
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Obama, Bush Asked To Speak At John McCain’s Funeral; Trump Told To Stay Away

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Sounds good.  I wouldn't have Trump there either.  He didn't respect McCain.  Bush is not quite McCain's type either, but he will be polite and respectful.  He understands civility and ceremony.  I'm curious about whether the Clintons will be there.  I hope they are. 

I understand that McCain will be only the 13th Senator to receive an official State funeral.  That seems right.  He deserves it.
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Offline Baruch

Re: McCain
« Reply #17 on: August 27, 2018, 07:45:36 AM »
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Obama, Bush Asked To Speak At John McCain’s Funeral; Trump Told To Stay Away

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Huffington Post ... that is some Alt-Right source, right?  I would only go to McCain's funeral to take a piss on him (sarc).
𐎍𐎜𐎜𐎟𐎌𐎀𐎍𐎎𐎀𐎀𐎚𐎀𐎟𐎍𐎜𐎜𐎟𐎁𐎀𐎍𐎉𐎀𐎀𐎚𐎀
luu shalmaata luu balt’aata
May you be well, may you be healthy

Offline Baruch

Re: McCain
« Reply #18 on: August 27, 2018, 07:46:37 AM »
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Sounds good.  I wouldn't have Trump there either.  He didn't respect McCain.  Bush is not quite McCain's type either, but he will be polite and respectful.  He understands civility and ceremony.  I'm curious about whether the Clintons will be there.  I hope they are. 

I understand that McCain will be only the 13th Senator to receive an official State funeral.  That seems right.  He deserves it.

I hope all former Presidents are there, so Putin can waste them (sarc).
𐎍𐎜𐎜𐎟𐎌𐎀𐎍𐎎𐎀𐎀𐎚𐎀𐎟𐎍𐎜𐎜𐎟𐎁𐎀𐎍𐎉𐎀𐎀𐎚𐎀
luu shalmaata luu balt’aata
May you be well, may you be healthy

Offline SGOS

Re: McCain
« Reply #19 on: August 27, 2018, 08:11:06 AM »
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Huffington Post ... that is some Alt-Right source, right?
What's your point?

Offline Cavebear

Re: McCain
« Reply #20 on: August 27, 2018, 08:13:23 AM »
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What's your point?

Baruch never has a "point".  He just likes to make jokes and create chaos.  A true troll.
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Re: McCain
« Reply #21 on: August 27, 2018, 09:00:18 AM »
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.......... and create chaos.
A true Trumpian in that respect.  That's his point....................
Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?
Then he is not omnipotent,
Is he able but not willing?
Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able or willing?
Then why call him god?

Offline Cavebear

Re: McCain
« Reply #22 on: August 27, 2018, 09:11:42 AM »
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A true Trumpian in that respect.  That's his point....................

Well, maybe Trump just needs a spiritual leader accustomed to chaos.  Baruch would fit right in. 
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Offline SGOS

Re: McCain
« Reply #23 on: August 27, 2018, 09:41:34 AM »
If I remember the movie Contact correctly, I think the president had a spiritual advisor played by Rob Lowe.  I thought this was funny, because I didn't think there was such a secretary to the president in real life.   In addition, he wasn't an advisor.  He was just at lobbyist in the White House trying to control everything.  I loved all the religious hub bub that Sagan created as a response to alien contact.  It ran the full spectrum from seizing the opportunity to control the government to the celebration of the coming apocalypse.  Few people were thinking, many were trying to gain an edge, and others were just finding reasons to be get weird.  It was chaos, with religion sticking it's nose into things people didn't understand. 

Offline Cavebear

Re: McCain
« Reply #24 on: August 27, 2018, 09:46:33 AM »
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If I remember the movie Contact correctly, I think the president had a spiritual advisor played by Rob Lowe.  I thought this was funny, because I didn't think there was such a secretary to the president in real life.   In addition, he wasn't an advisor.  He was just at lobbyist in the White House trying to control everything.  I loved all the religious hub bub that Sagan created as a response to alien contact.  It ran the full spectrum from seizing the opportunity to control the government to the celebration of the coming apocalypse.  Few people were thinking, many were trying to gain an edge, and others were just finding reasons to be get weird.  It was chaos, with religion sticking it's nose into things people didn't understand.

Yes, 'Contact' had more levels of meaning than most people saw.  Sagan seldom allowed superstition to intrude on reality.    Even considering it was a sci-fi.
Atheist born, atheist bred.  And when I die, atheist dead!

Re: McCain
« Reply #25 on: August 27, 2018, 11:28:55 AM »
At best, McCain was a frienemy --not a real friend to my way of thinking.  Did not like his take on almost anything. 
Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?
Then he is not omnipotent,
Is he able but not willing?
Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able or willing?
Then why call him god?

Offline Cavebear

Re: McCain
« Reply #26 on: August 27, 2018, 11:38:24 AM »
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At best, McCain was a frienemy --not a real friend to my way of thinking.  Did not like his take on almost anything.

I suppose it comes down to "well, he sure wasn't Trump".
Atheist born, atheist bred.  And when I die, atheist dead!

Offline Baruch

Re: McCain
« Reply #27 on: August 27, 2018, 02:01:12 PM »
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What's your point?

Irony .. or are you just another communist? (rhetorical question).

So quote Stormfront on Judaism sometime too.
𐎍𐎜𐎜𐎟𐎌𐎀𐎍𐎎𐎀𐎀𐎚𐎀𐎟𐎍𐎜𐎜𐎟𐎁𐎀𐎍𐎉𐎀𐎀𐎚𐎀
luu shalmaata luu balt’aata
May you be well, may you be healthy

Offline Baruch

Re: McCain
« Reply #28 on: August 27, 2018, 02:02:21 PM »
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Well, maybe Trump just needs a spiritual leader accustomed to chaos.  Baruch would fit right in.

Well ... the first thing I would tell Trump is ... STFU ... and the second thing would be "act like a gentleman already".  So I would last even shorter time than his other appointees ;-)
𐎍𐎜𐎜𐎟𐎌𐎀𐎍𐎎𐎀𐎀𐎚𐎀𐎟𐎍𐎜𐎜𐎟𐎁𐎀𐎍𐎉𐎀𐎀𐎚𐎀
luu shalmaata luu balt’aata
May you be well, may you be healthy

Offline Baruch

Re: McCain
« Reply #29 on: August 27, 2018, 02:03:26 PM »
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If I remember the movie Contact correctly, I think the president had a spiritual advisor played by Rob Lowe.  I thought this was funny, because I didn't think there was such a secretary to the president in real life.   In addition, he wasn't an advisor.  He was just at lobbyist in the White House trying to control everything.  I loved all the religious hub bub that Sagan created as a response to alien contact.  It ran the full spectrum from seizing the opportunity to control the government to the celebration of the coming apocalypse.  Few people were thinking, many were trying to gain an edge, and others were just finding reasons to be get weird.  It was chaos, with religion sticking it's nose into things people didn't understand.

That was a 1980s thing ... culturally, and when it was written.  A Satanic adviser would be more appropriate for any political leader.
« Last Edit: August 27, 2018, 02:05:19 PM by Baruch »
𐎍𐎜𐎜𐎟𐎌𐎀𐎍𐎎𐎀𐎀𐎚𐎀𐎟𐎍𐎜𐎜𐎟𐎁𐎀𐎍𐎉𐎀𐎀𐎚𐎀
luu shalmaata luu balt’aata
May you be well, may you be healthy

 

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