Antifa clashes with police and journalists in Charlottesville and DC

Started by orcus, August 13, 2018, 02:53:06 PM

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orcus

Antifa says it fights fascists and neo-Nazis. But this weekend, members attacked cops and journalists.

QuoteSunday’s counterprotests against the white nationalist “Unite the Right 2” rally in Washington, DC, were largely peaceful. Thousands of people held multiple rallies across the city to celebrate diversity and push back against the hateful views the white nationalists espouse.

But a few left-wing “antifa” (short for “anti-fascist”) counterprotesters did engage in violence, throwing eggs and water bottles and shooting fireworks at police officers and some journalists who were covering the demonstrations.

This is not the first time antifa protesters have been violent. In August 2017, about 100 anarchists and antifa members assaulted far-right demonstrators who were marching peacefully in Berkeley, California, with pepper spray, water bottles, and direct physical assault.

As Vox’s German Lopez wrote at the time, “The argument for antifa activists is that the current crop of right-wing protesters â€" which are partly but not entirely made up of neo-Nazis, KKK members, and other white supremacists and nationalists â€" are so extreme that they must be stopped swiftly and even violently.”

Lopez continued:

Antifa supporters worry that if these groups’ views aren’t completely robbed of any kind of platform, they could gain legitimacy â€" and take advantage of democratic ideals like free speech to, ironically, promote their undemocratic messages. Violence is one way to get them off the stage.

What this view misses is the backlash that may come from political violence: that such violence can reinforce right-wing views about the left. As Michael Kazin, a history professor at Georgetown University and editor of Dissent magazine, told me earlier this year, “[N]on-leftists often see [the left] as a disruptive, lawless force. Violence tends to confirm that view.”
This weekend in Charlottesville and DC, though, it wasn’t neo-Nazis and white supremacists the antifa attacked. It was police who were there to help keep the peace among all the demonstrators and journalists who were there to cover the events.

Yes.... yes.... bite the hand that feeds you, little imps.

Baruch

When the KKK actually comes out to play, I hope they have a bed to hide under ... because the bedsheets will already be in use.
Ha’át’íísh baa naniná?
Azee’ Å,a’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
What are you doing?
Are you taking any medications?
Don't do that.


Shiranu

QuoteWhat this view misses is the backlash that may come from political violence: that such violence can reinforce right-wing views about the left.

100% agreed with this.
"A little science distances you from God, but a lot of science brings you nearer to Him." - Louis Pasteur


Baruch

Not a partisan answer please.  Americans divide America.  Now or in 1861.
Ha’át’íísh baa naniná?
Azee’ Å,a’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
What are you doing?
Are you taking any medications?
Don't do that.

Gawdzilla Sama

Quote from: Shiranu on August 14, 2018, 01:38:46 AM
100% agreed with this.
However, the time and date would do the same thing for many of them. They're already invested in a solidly uncritical attitude toward other people of differing views. And that's true of people on both sides, of course. I have fun comparing hard right characters to SJW.
We 'new atheists' have a reputation for being militant, but make no mistake  we didn't start this war. If you want to place blame put it on the the religious zealots who have been poisoning the minds of the  young for a long long time."
PZ Myers

Gawdzilla Sama

We 'new atheists' have a reputation for being militant, but make no mistake  we didn't start this war. If you want to place blame put it on the the religious zealots who have been poisoning the minds of the  young for a long long time."
PZ Myers

orcus

hopefully a video

Seems like a collegial enough conversation, but they're perhaps unintentionally spitting in the face of a lot of Marxist professors and their golems. They just don't realize how angry, desperate, or straight up insane a lot of college leftists are.

Baruch

University of Chicago is grad school only, no undergraduates.  You have to have at least moved from diapers to pull-ups, to attend.
Ha’át’íísh baa naniná?
Azee’ Å,a’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
What are you doing?
Are you taking any medications?
Don't do that.

Gawdzilla Sama

Quote from: orcus on August 15, 2018, 12:43:29 AM
They just don't realize how angry, desperate, or straight up insane a lot of college leftists are.
So, just how angry, desperate, or straight up insane are they?
We 'new atheists' have a reputation for being militant, but make no mistake  we didn't start this war. If you want to place blame put it on the the religious zealots who have been poisoning the minds of the  young for a long long time."
PZ Myers


Baruch

This is the result of drugging all the tykes with ADHD medicine from first grade onward.
Ha’át’íísh baa naniná?
Azee’ Å,a’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
What are you doing?
Are you taking any medications?
Don't do that.

orcus

Yeah a lot of shifts in culture can be explained by what drugs are popular.

Munch

Quote from: Baruch on August 15, 2018, 01:05:56 PM
This is the result of drugging all the tykes with ADHD medicine from first grade onward.

If that were true, why aren't all millennials like it?

I put it down to a combination of parents spoiling their kids telling them they can be anything they want, and uni professors re-enforcing those thoughts in another direction.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=aTZ-CpINiqg

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=h6wOt2iXdc4
'Political correctness is fascism pretending to be manners' - George Carlin