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Sunday’s counterprotests against the white nationalist “Unite the Right 2” rally in Washington, DC, were largely peaceful. Thousands of people held multiple rallies across the city to celebrate diversity and push back against the hateful views the white nationalists espouse.

But a few left-wing “antifa” (short for “anti-fascist”) counterprotesters did engage in violence, throwing eggs and water bottles and shooting fireworks at police officers and some journalists who were covering the demonstrations.

This is not the first time antifa protesters have been violent. In August 2017, about 100 anarchists and antifa members assaulted far-right demonstrators who were marching peacefully in Berkeley, California, with pepper spray, water bottles, and direct physical assault.

As Vox’s German Lopez wrote at the time, “The argument for antifa activists is that the current crop of right-wing protesters — which are partly but not entirely made up of neo-Nazis, KKK members, and other white supremacists and nationalists — are so extreme that they must be stopped swiftly and even violently.”

Lopez continued:

Antifa supporters worry that if these groups’ views aren’t completely robbed of any kind of platform, they could gain legitimacy — and take advantage of democratic ideals like free speech to, ironically, promote their undemocratic messages. Violence is one way to get them off the stage.

What this view misses is the backlash that may come from political violence: that such violence can reinforce right-wing views about the left. As Michael Kazin, a history professor at Georgetown University and editor of Dissent magazine, told me earlier this year, “[N]on-leftists often see [the left] as a disruptive, lawless force. Violence tends to confirm that view.”
This weekend in Charlottesville and DC, though, it wasn’t neo-Nazis and white supremacists the antifa attacked. It was police who were there to help keep the peace among all the demonstrators and journalists who were there to cover the events.

Yes.... yes.... bite the hand that feeds you, little imps.
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Offline Baruch

Re: Antifa clashes with police and journalists in Charlottesville and DC
« Reply #1 on: August 13, 2018, 08:46:52 PM »
When the KKK actually comes out to play, I hope they have a bed to hide under ... because the bedsheets will already be in use.
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« Reply #2 on: August 14, 2018, 12:50:38 AM »
What?

Offline Shiranu

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What this view misses is the backlash that may come from political violence: that such violence can reinforce right-wing views about the left.

100% agreed with this.
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Offline pr126

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« Reply #4 on: August 14, 2018, 01:49:05 AM »
Yes. Fox News. Deal with it.

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Offline Baruch

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« Reply #5 on: August 14, 2018, 05:15:14 AM »
Not a partisan answer please.  Americans divide America.  Now or in 1861.
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100% agreed with this.
However, the time and date would do the same thing for many of them. They're already invested in a solidly uncritical attitude toward other people of differing views. And that's true of people on both sides, of course. I have fun comparing hard right characters to SJW.
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« Reply #7 on: August 14, 2018, 05:51:36 AM »
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Yes. Fox News. Deal with it.

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See what I mean?
We 'new atheists' have a reputation for being militant, but make no mistake  we didn't start this war. If you want to place blame put it on the the religious zealots who have been poisoning the minds of the  young for a long long time."
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« Reply #8 on: August 15, 2018, 12:43:29 AM »
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Seems like a collegial enough conversation, but they're perhaps unintentionally spitting in the face of a lot of Marxist professors and their golems. They just don't realize how angry, desperate, or straight up insane a lot of college leftists are.
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Offline Baruch

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« Reply #9 on: August 15, 2018, 12:51:16 AM »
University of Chicago is grad school only, no undergraduates.  You have to have at least moved from diapers to pull-ups, to attend.
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« Reply #10 on: August 15, 2018, 05:44:50 AM »
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They just don't realize how angry, desperate, or straight up insane a lot of college leftists are.
So, just how angry, desperate, or straight up insane are they?
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Offline Baruch

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« Reply #12 on: August 15, 2018, 01:05:56 PM »
This is the result of drugging all the tykes with ADHD medicine from first grade onward.
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« Reply #13 on: August 15, 2018, 02:02:23 PM »
Yeah a lot of shifts in culture can be explained by what drugs are popular.

Offline Munch

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« Reply #14 on: August 15, 2018, 03:52:04 PM »
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This is the result of drugging all the tykes with ADHD medicine from first grade onward.

If that were true, why aren't all millennials like it?

I put it down to a combination of parents spoiling their kids telling them they can be anything they want, and uni professors re-enforcing those thoughts in another direction.

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