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Online GSOgymrat

Re: What news sources do you trust and why?
« Reply #15 on: August 10, 2018, 11:46:20 AM »
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As with the legacy media, it not just what they report but what they leave out.

I agree, which is why with stories of interest I look at a variety of sources for different perspectives. Often different sources take the same set of facts and interpret them completely differently based on their values.
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Re: What news sources do you trust and why?
« Reply #16 on: August 10, 2018, 04:02:15 PM »
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Less bias: AP,

I too thought AP was "less biased," but it may be that AP isn't as trustworthy as I used to think:


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Online Baruch

Re: What news sources do you trust and why?
« Reply #17 on: August 10, 2018, 05:36:47 PM »
Trust only the DNC ;-)
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Offline Cavebear

Re: What news sources do you trust and why?
« Reply #18 on: August 12, 2018, 04:41:32 AM »
I won't hide the fact that I tend to watch MSNBC.  When they make a claim, they show dates, times, sources and full quotes.  They don't cherry-pick parts of quotes, they don't make innuendos, and they stick to what is provable (ie what can be shown as original statements in recordings).

There is a problem with trying to show averages of perceptions.  If 2 people are stating facts and 8 people inaccurately deny that, the average shouldn't be that the 2 people are at 25% of reality.  History is filled with a majority of people being wrong.
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Online Baruch

Re: What news sources do you trust and why?
« Reply #19 on: August 12, 2018, 06:23:34 AM »
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I won't hide the fact that I tend to watch MSNBC.  When they make a claim, they show dates, times, sources and full quotes.  They don't cherry-pick parts of quotes, they don't make innuendos, and they stick to what is provable (ie what can be shown as original statements in recordings).

There is a problem with trying to show averages of perceptions.  If 2 people are stating facts and 8 people inaccurately deny that, the average shouldn't be that the 2 people are at 25% of reality.  History is filled with a majority of people being wrong.

Correct.  And that is why we are a failed species.
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Offline pr126

Re: What news sources do you trust and why?
« Reply #20 on: August 12, 2018, 09:47:07 AM »
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In American Pravda, the reader is invited to go undercover with these intrepid journalists as they infiltrate political campaigns, unmask dishonest officials and expose voter fraud. A rollicking adventure story on one level, the book also serves as a treatise on modern media, arguing that establishment journalists have a vested interest in keeping the powerful comfortable and the people misinformed.

The book not only contests the false narratives frequently put forth by corporate media, it documents the consequences of telling the truth in a world that does not necessarily want to hear it. O’Keefe’s enemies attack with lawsuits, smear campaigns, political prosecutions, and false charges in an effort to shut down Project Veritas. For O’Keefe, every one of these attacks is a sign of success.

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 - Joseph Goebbels

Offline Cavebear

Re: What news sources do you trust and why?
« Reply #21 on: August 12, 2018, 09:59:33 AM »
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I do trust mainstream journalism.  Those people are dedicated to facts wherever it leads them.  Politicians don't like that, but that has been true for over a century.  The trick is to recognize that a CURRENT politician doesn't like facts and claims the non-Fox media is "fake news".  It isn't.

Think about it.  Either 90% of the world is dedicated to faking the news or it isn't.  And it isn't.
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Online Baruch

Re: What news sources do you trust and why?
« Reply #22 on: August 12, 2018, 11:10:49 AM »
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Everything is political now, and everything political is ideological.  So we are all idiots now ;-(

This started with war propaganda in WW I, and continues to this day ...

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If you can't trust Lloyd George or the Kaiser, who can you trust?

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My favorite WW I poster ...

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Online GSOgymrat

Re: What news sources do you trust and why?
« Reply #23 on: August 12, 2018, 02:39:31 PM »
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Everything is political now, and everything political is ideological.  So we are all idiots now ;-(


Of the many bon mots you've made on this forum, that is one of my favorites.
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― Pema Chödrön

Re: What news sources do you trust and why?
« Reply #24 on: August 12, 2018, 05:34:35 PM »
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I won't hide the fact that I tend to watch MSNBC.  When they make a claim, they show dates, times, sources and full quotes.  They don't cherry-pick parts of quotes, they don't make innuendos, and they stick to what is provable (ie what can be shown as original statements in recordings).

There is a problem with trying to show averages of perceptions.  If 2 people are stating facts and 8 people inaccurately deny that, the average shouldn't be that the 2 people are at 25% of reality.  History is filled with a majority of people being wrong.

I really like Rachel Maddow! She gets it right, and doesn't beat around the bush.
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Offline Cavebear

Re: What news sources do you trust and why?
« Reply #25 on: August 27, 2018, 08:16:43 AM »
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I really like Rachel Maddow! She gets it right, and doesn't beat around the bush.

A fellow Rachel Maddow admirer here.  I even had 2 bumber stickers made.  "Maddow For President 2016".  I kept one and sent her the other.

Her opening 20 minutes are some of the best information of my day.
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Online Baruch

Re: What news sources do you trust and why?
« Reply #26 on: August 27, 2018, 02:00:02 PM »
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A fellow Rachel Maddow admirer here.  I even had 2 bumber stickers made.  "Maddow For President 2016".  I kept one and sent her the other.

Her opening 20 minutes are some of the best information of my day.

Female talking heads are more comely than the male kind ... for many viewers.
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