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Stephen Hawking spoke Nonsense!
« on: August 08, 2018, 09:48:15 AM »
I loved when John Lennox made this claim that Nonsense remains nonsense, even when spoken by the worlds' greatest scientists.

When Hawking published his book, The Grand Design, where he postulated that because the laws of Gravity exists, the Universe could spontaneously create itself.
 
What Hawking did was to bury his position of a visionary physicist, with a claim that only someone with extraordinary Mathematical skills will understand what he speaks about in his theory.
Well, Hawking did not know that there are such people, but in opposition to his atheistic views, who are well beyond the required mathematical yard line, who does not agree with what he came up with.

John Lennox...

If you read Lennox's book, you will see just how Hawkings [incorrectly spelled but pointed out by a cool guy] actually changes something into nothing, and uses this nothing-something as evidence that something came out of nothing.

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The Human Mind, if it has nothing to do with Evolution...What an incredible entity...
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Atheism, what a wonderful religion, where one believe to believe is erroneous.

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Re: Stephen Hawking spoke Nonsense!
« Reply #1 on: August 08, 2018, 12:47:29 PM »
Sorry, Hawking had a 2-dimensional time hypothesis, in order to make reality recursive (feedback from the future into the past).  Ouroboros ... from alchemy theory.  It didn't fly with scientists either.  I give him an A for trying however.
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Re: Stephen Hawking spoke Nonsense!
« Reply #2 on: August 08, 2018, 01:43:47 PM »
John Lennox is an expert in group theory, not differential geometry, or on Hamiltonian mechanics. He has no credentials to say that Hawking's assertions are nonsense.
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Re: Stephen Hawking spoke Nonsense!
« Reply #3 on: August 08, 2018, 03:54:20 PM »
Oh.
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Re: Stephen Hawking spoke Nonsense!
« Reply #4 on: August 08, 2018, 05:14:49 PM »
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When Hawking published his book, The Grand Design, where he postulated that because the laws of Gravity exists, the Universe could spontaneously create itself.
Suffice it to say that I doubt you could accurately summarize The Very Hungry Caterpillar, so I very much doubt you could accurately present (much less refute) any of Stephen Hawking's works.

P.S. - did you really spell it Hawkins?! WTF.


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Re: Stephen Hawking spoke Nonsense!
« Reply #5 on: August 08, 2018, 07:49:56 PM »
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John Lennox is an expert in group theory, not differential geometry, or on Hamiltonian mechanics. He has no credentials to say that Hawking's assertions are nonsense.

Most of those things we can't even spell.  Speak English ;-)
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Re: Stephen Hawking spoke Nonsense!
« Reply #6 on: August 08, 2018, 11:01:52 PM »
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I loved when John Lennox made this claim that Nonsense remains nonsense, even when spoken by the worlds' greatest scientists.

Interesting.  Considering your claims don't even reach the level of nonsense; stupidity, just plain stupidity.  You reach the level of stupid on a very good day for you.
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Re: Stephen Hawking spoke Nonsense!
« Reply #7 on: August 08, 2018, 11:36:48 PM »
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I'll speak LMGTFY to you:
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(But basically general relativity and quantum mechanics.)
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Re: Stephen Hawking spoke Nonsense!
« Reply #8 on: August 09, 2018, 01:45:33 AM »
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Interesting.  Considering your claims don't even reach the level of nonsense; stupidity, just plain stupidity.  You reach the level of stupid on a very good day for you.
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The Human Mind, if it has nothing to do with Evolution...What an incredible entity...
If it does, what a waste!

Atheism, what a wonderful religion, where one believe to believe is erroneous.

Re: Stephen Hawking spoke Nonsense!
« Reply #9 on: August 09, 2018, 01:47:30 AM »
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I'll speak LMGTFY to you:
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(But basically general relativity and quantum mechanics.)
Jeez you guys are funny!!!
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Believe me, I am laughing here and everyone around me think Ive gon crazy.
Evolution, the religion whereby one believes your children more human, and your parents more ape, than you!

The Human Mind, if it has nothing to do with Evolution...What an incredible entity...
If it does, what a waste!

Atheism, what a wonderful religion, where one believe to believe is erroneous.

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Re: Stephen Hawking spoke Nonsense!
« Reply #10 on: August 09, 2018, 04:11:43 AM »
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Jeez you guys are funny!!!
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Believe me, I am laughing here and everyone around me think Ive gon crazy.

Well, yes, we do.  You ARE scientifically ignorant.  You sure are full of it (faith), but that doesn't count for much here.  Are you on a "mission" or something?
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Re: Stephen Hawking spoke Nonsense!
« Reply #11 on: August 09, 2018, 06:43:45 AM »
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I'll speak LMGTFY to you:
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(But basically general relativity and quantum mechanics.)

Simple for a Poindexter like you.  But I am Mandark, and I love your sister, DeeDee.
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Re: Stephen Hawking spoke Nonsense!
« Reply #12 on: August 09, 2018, 06:45:22 AM »
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Jeez you guys are funny!!!
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Believe me, I am laughing here and everyone around me think Ive gon crazy.

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Re: Stephen Hawking spoke Nonsense!
« Reply #13 on: August 09, 2018, 06:46:25 AM »
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Well, yes, we do.  You ARE scientifically ignorant.  You sure are full of it (faith), but that doesn't count for much here.  Are you on a "mission" or something?

Seems so.  And this web site only has room for one giant ego (irony).  People on a mission are ego maniacs of course.
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Re: Stephen Hawking spoke Nonsense!
« Reply #14 on: August 09, 2018, 10:04:36 AM »
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Jeez you guys are funny!!!
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Believe me, I am laughing here and everyone around me think Ive gon crazy.
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You, MT, are absolutely convinced in your ability to argue and gather facts, when everyone else sees that you're not doing abysmally. There is an explanation for this difference and that is the Dunning-Kruger effect β€” your ability to self-assess and your ability to perform are the same skill-set. If you are terrible at what you do, you will be terrible at assessing how good a job you're doing. The Dunning-Kruger effect is basically why certification is a thing.

You have been assessed by your more competent peers and have been found wanting. I in particular have given you real tests to assess your ability to do physics, and you have been unable to do them. I still await your calculations showing the viability of the "Biblical" nebular hypothesis.

John Lennox has the same affliction. He is not trained in the very fields that would allow him to competently assess Hawking's ideas. Now, he might be right, but that's a matter for other experts in the field to decide, not him. So far, none of his criticisms have stuck.
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