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Offline Draconic Aiur

Re: China's Growing Influence in Africa
« Reply #15 on: August 03, 2018, 12:44:07 AM »
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That is what happens when you play King Of The Hill ... fellow loser.

Thomas Friedman can suck my dick. I rather dig Richard Florida's Spiky World than anything else.

Re: China's Growing Influence in Africa
« Reply #16 on: August 03, 2018, 02:52:21 AM »
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Free trade wouldn't solve Jack. Free trade would just make the class gap wider.
I always thought this was the case, until now.

The fact is that the more richer people you have in a country, the better for the poor.
Someone told me the following and I would love to know who it was.

"Socialism is a wonderful thing...until the rich dont have any money left!"

I am a witness to this sad situation.

When the socialists took over the RSA, many business people realized that investment in this country is really a huge risk.
They took their money elsewhere, Europe, Russia, US, South America, and Australia and even Canada.
This left a huge gap in the industry, and only the basic companies were still staying.
Then the socialists composed the largest collection of labor laws, which makes it almost impossible to dismiss any worker, no matter how lazy, how much he steals, how arrogant he is against an instruction by a manager etc.
Then they made laws to remove the "White" ownership and "White" Managers, and the ANC replaced them with laws that forced companies to give shares to their friends who just had parties and holidays, until these companies were bankrupt.

I lost my previous top management position to a black man who never even worked in this industry after the government spent 2 Billion rand to take ownership. 6 months later they lost another 4 billion rand, but the money kept on flowing. The director will take holiday for 5 weeks, bringing back an account if 700 000 rand and claimed it from entertainment expenses.

No, I think it is best to have the Western mind in control of countries in Africa, and to keep them accountable for the money they waste.

Capitalism does create a rich and poor class, but until as proven in the USA, if you create an environment where the rich can profit, they will create jobs.
If there is jobs, there is less crime and poverty.

I will rather be working poor, with food and education for my children, than jobless poor facing hungry children and them growing up illiterate.


Evolution, the religion whereby one believes your children more human, and your parents more ape, than you!

The Human Mind, if it has nothing to do with Evolution...What an incredible entity...
If it does, what a waste!

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Offline Baruch

Re: China's Growing Influence in Africa
« Reply #17 on: August 03, 2018, 04:49:57 AM »
ANC - agent of the Soviet Union  Result - state failure  Lesson - ignore the Russians next time

Venezuela - agent of the Soviet Union  Result - state failure  Lesson - ignore the Russians next time
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Offline Draconic Aiur

Re: China's Growing Influence in Africa
« Reply #18 on: August 03, 2018, 05:21:23 PM »
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I always thought this was the case, until now.

The fact is that the more richer people you have in a country, the better for the poor.
Someone told me the following and I would love to know who it was.

"Socialism is a wonderful thing...until the rich dont have any money left!"

I am a witness to this sad situation.

When the socialists took over the RSA, many business people realized that investment in this country is really a huge risk.
They took their money elsewhere, Europe, Russia, US, South America, and Australia and even Canada.
This left a huge gap in the industry, and only the basic companies were still staying.
Then the socialists composed the largest collection of labor laws, which makes it almost impossible to dismiss any worker, no matter how lazy, how much he steals, how arrogant he is against an instruction by a manager etc.
Then they made laws to remove the "White" ownership and "White" Managers, and the ANC replaced them with laws that forced companies to give shares to their friends who just had parties and holidays, until these companies were bankrupt.

I lost my previous top management position to a black man who never even worked in this industry after the government spent 2 Billion rand to take ownership. 6 months later they lost another 4 billion rand, but the money kept on flowing. The director will take holiday for 5 weeks, bringing back an account if 700 000 rand and claimed it from entertainment expenses.

No, I think it is best to have the Western mind in control of countries in Africa, and to keep them accountable for the money they waste.

Capitalism does create a rich and poor class, but until as proven in the USA, if you create an environment where the rich can profit, they will create jobs.
If there is jobs, there is less crime and poverty.

I will rather be working poor, with food and education for my children, than jobless poor facing hungry children and them growing up illiterate.




Freetrade would leave you jobless poor facing hungry children and them growing up illiterate. You are already in a corrupts society with colonization, fr trad will make that worse, in fact it already sort is..

Offline Baruch

Re: China's Growing Influence in Africa
« Reply #19 on: August 03, 2018, 06:41:55 PM »
Free trade = business tycoons get to screw people on multiple continents at the same time!
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Offline Draconic Aiur

Re: China's Growing Influence in Africa
« Reply #20 on: August 04, 2018, 02:00:10 AM »
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Free trade = business tycoons get to screw people on multiple continents at the same time!

It's basically Slave Lobster.

Offline Cavebear

Re: China's Growing Influence in Africa
« Reply #21 on: August 04, 2018, 02:27:47 AM »
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I thought it might be needed to give authority to the UN to take ovr countries where human rights are violated, dictators and idiots are ruling, but then again, they will have too much power and might even destroy the countries that are democratic.

Just as small groups surrendered some local rights to larger groups, and those moved to nations, it is likely that humankind will only survive and advance by becoming a single organized politic.

I'm not sure I actually want to be there when it happens, but I think we have only 2 choices.  Fight as separate nations or merge in order to advance.
Atheist born, atheist bred.  And when I die, atheist dead!

Offline Draconic Aiur

Re: China's Growing Influence in Africa
« Reply #22 on: August 04, 2018, 04:18:28 AM »
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Just as small groups surrendered some local rights to larger groups, and those moved to nations, it is likely that humankind will only survive and advance by becoming a single organized politic.

I'm not sure I actually want to be there when it happens, but I think we have only 2 choices.  Fight as separate nations or merge in order to advance.

Wrong. There will always be conflict.

Offline Cavebear

Re: China's Growing Influence in Africa
« Reply #23 on: August 04, 2018, 04:29:18 AM »
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Wrong. There will always be conflict.

As long as there is conflict, we will never succeed in space.  And if we don't do that, we will obliterate ourselves in some way.
Atheist born, atheist bred.  And when I die, atheist dead!

Offline Baruch

Re: China's Growing Influence in Africa
« Reply #24 on: August 04, 2018, 08:14:02 AM »
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Just as small groups surrendered some local rights to larger groups, and those moved to nations, it is likely that humankind will only survive and advance by becoming a single organized politic.

I'm not sure I actually want to be there when it happens, but I think we have only 2 choices.  Fight as separate nations or merge in order to advance.

Yes, it is called utopia.  Marx predicted it, that people there would never work, because machines would do all the work, and the products of the machines would be distributed evenly.  This is also what we see in The Jetsons.  George just has to push a button all day, the computer does all the work.

So I choose to fight, because I don't want myself of my daughter to be social insects in the Hive of Queen Hillary.
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Offline Baruch

Re: China's Growing Influence in Africa
« Reply #25 on: August 04, 2018, 08:14:24 AM »
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As long as there is conflict, we will never succeed in space.  And if we don't do that, we will obliterate ourselves in some way.

Good riddance.  A in-Humanity made up of mostly cloned sterile worker females ... ruled by one fertile queen who produces all the eggs, based on sperm provided by one male, out of competing males, the males being temporary fertile testosterone products of what would otherwise be those same sterile worker females ... sounds like utopia to me.  There was an Outer Limits on this.
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Offline Cavebear

Re: China's Growing Influence in Africa
« Reply #26 on: August 04, 2018, 08:28:32 AM »
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Yes, it is called utopia.  Marx predicted it, that people there would never work, because machines would do all the work, and the products of the machines would be distributed evenly.  This is also what we see in The Jetsons.  George just has to push a button all day, the computer does all the work.

So I choose to fight, because I don't want myself of my daughter to be social insects in the Hive of Queen Hillary.

I didn't say it was utopia, just spreading into space to avoid elimination on one planet.  More planets, harder to die all at once...  Are you still obsessed with Hillary Clinton?  You poor sap.  Were you also raging against Al Gore in 2002?  Oh wait, maybe you were.  "Never Mind".

My world is not 'The Jetsons".  Though I might go for Kim Possible.  Better than Rick and Morty.
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Offline Cavebear

Re: China's Growing Influence in Africa
« Reply #27 on: August 04, 2018, 08:31:16 AM »
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Good riddance.  A in-Humanity made up of mostly cloned sterile worker females ... ruled by one fertile queen who produces all the eggs, based on sperm provided by one male, out of competing males, the males being temporary fertile testosterone products of what would otherwise be those same sterile worker females ... sounds like utopia to me.  There was an Outer Limits on this.

There was probably an Outer Limits (or Twilight Zone) about everything.  None of which will ever be real...
Atheist born, atheist bred.  And when I die, atheist dead!

Offline Baruch

Re: China's Growing Influence in Africa
« Reply #28 on: August 04, 2018, 08:33:19 AM »
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I didn't say it was utopia, just spreading into space to avoid elimination on one planet.  More planets, harder to die all at once...  Are you still obsessed with Hillary Clinton?  You poor sap.  Were you also raging against Al Gore in 2002?  Oh wait, maybe you were.  "Never Mind".

My world is not 'The Jetsons".  Though I might go for Kim Possible.  Better than Rick and Morty.

Only Elon will colonize space, as a corpse shot into space, in the last Tesla.  Sorry, I didn't vote for Hillary, ever.  I did vote for that sex maniac, Bill, one time.  No, I am not anti-Al Gore.  I feel kind of sorry for him, like Dukakis in 1988 (an idiot I did vote for).  See, if you don't bow down to Messiah Obama or Queen Hillary, then you can't be a true DNC Democrat, not even in the past (thanks to the "memory hole" technique from "1984").
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Offline Baruch

Re: China's Growing Influence in Africa
« Reply #29 on: August 04, 2018, 08:34:29 AM »
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There was probably an Outer Limits (or Twilight Zone) about everything.  None of which will ever be real...

You must hate all TV and movies ... because they are fictional.  Outer Limits and Twilight Zone (original version) were thinking-persons TV back in the day.  Of course you were still a cub back then.  I was too, but a precocious cub.
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