The challenges facing atheists in the U.S.

Started by Unbeliever, July 26, 2018, 08:05:05 PM

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Mermaid

Quote from: Mousetrap on July 30, 2018, 11:03:30 AM
I know that there was terrible persecution done by "Christians" in the past.
I also know that there are terrible things done by Muslims Today.
Just as you should admit that Atheism is the number one killer on this Earth when we consider the age of this religion, and in what a short time they managed to kill the amount of innocent people they did!

But, lets see if you can get past this one.
Those Christians you are referring to murdered on what grounds?
Only because of politics when the reformation occurred between Catholic and protestant.
Or, If we want to look at the Crusades, only because kings and popes wanted to regain the Holy land from the Muslims after continuous attacks against the pilgrims to Jerusalem.

Totally political!

The Atheists then again, killed due to politics, power and greed!

The Muslims?
also, to take over the world Pinkey!
To make it all a Muslim Caliphate!

Ok, so where does the Christian stand today?
They do not further violence.
The Atheist?
Dont dare to speak about their attitude against Christianity, they have the right to demand decimation of all religions in schools, universities, and the professional world.

And where is Islam?
Still trying to takeover the world, Brain!

Now, why?
The Atheist are still caught up in communism, socialism, and think like Marx.
They will still kill if they get the chance.
The Muslims, they are instructed by their holy book to kill until only Islam remains.
The Christians?
They are instructed NOT TO FURTHER WAR AND VIOLENCE, AND ANY ONE WHO DOES SO, ARE NOT DOING WHAT JESUS INSTRUCTED THEM AND IT IS RECORDED IN THE BIBLE.

Therefore, I will anytime live in a country where they call themself Christian.
Never in a socialist or Communist country, and definately never under shariah law.

Only a fool would think that an Atheist will have freedom in an atheist or Muslim country.
and the so called Christian countries of the world are the safehaven for Atheists, Jews, and Muslims

Get your priorities correct pal.


What planet are you from? Is it cold there?
A cynical habit of thought and speech, a readiness to criticise work which the critic himself never tries to perform, an intellectual aloofness which will not accept contact with life’s realities â€" all these are marks, not as the possessor would fain to think, of superiority but of weakness. -TR

Mousetrap

Quote from: Mermaid on July 30, 2018, 07:22:25 PM
What planet are you from? Is it cold there?
Lets put it this way as an answer to your question.

If you walk down the road, and there crosses an animal on your path without legs, diamond colored scales, and some rattle on its tail, looking at you and you think, aaauuoo, this creature will do me nothing, what would a bystander call you?

If you take a hike, and a huge hairy brown animal, with sharp claws, and big teeth,  storms down onto you with a growl, and you would reply, aaaauuuooo, this is such a kind animal, what will a bystander call you?

If you go to a church, and the people are worshiping and singing, and you say, dear, oh dear! What dangerous people are these? Thy should be locked up in an asylum! These guys are dangerous!

Then you walk past a Mosque on your way home, and you see something wearing long robes covering their faces, and some other ones wearing white robes with a hat and a huge beard, and you say, I know that their religion is to kill all Jews and Christians, but I am an atheist, and these guys, well they can not be like those fundamentalists who kills in the name of their Allah.
Aaaauuuooo! these people are innocent and they are peaceful. They will never harm anyone!

What will a bystander think about your incapability to identify danger, and safety?

Or even better yet, do you think your methodology to claim something is dangerous, or safe, is a healthy one?


Evolution, the religion whereby one believes your children more human, and your parents more ape, than you!

The Human Mind, if it has nothing to do with Evolution...What an incredible entity...
If it does, what a waste!

Atheism, what a wonderful religion, where one believe to believe is erroneous.

Mousetrap

I know what dangers Atheism, socialism, and communism breeds.
I know what destruction is instructed by Mohammad to Muslims.
I know a snake, a bear, a lion, a spider.
I know who and what to distance myself from.

I also know which religions are no threat to anyone, except in the opposing minds that does not have the capability to distinguish between danger and safe.

It is something a primary school child is capable to achieve, yet you think I am from another planet.

The real question is
When will you take your head out of the hole you dug to escape reality?
Try it.
Evolution, the religion whereby one believes your children more human, and your parents more ape, than you!

The Human Mind, if it has nothing to do with Evolution...What an incredible entity...
If it does, what a waste!

Atheism, what a wonderful religion, where one believe to believe is erroneous.

Mermaid

A cynical habit of thought and speech, a readiness to criticise work which the critic himself never tries to perform, an intellectual aloofness which will not accept contact with life’s realities â€" all these are marks, not as the possessor would fain to think, of superiority but of weakness. -TR

Mousetrap

Evolution, the religion whereby one believes your children more human, and your parents more ape, than you!

The Human Mind, if it has nothing to do with Evolution...What an incredible entity...
If it does, what a waste!

Atheism, what a wonderful religion, where one believe to believe is erroneous.

Hydra009

Quote from: Mousetrap on July 31, 2018, 08:44:49 AM
I know what dangers Atheism, socialism, and communism breeds.
And yet you couldn't accurately define any of those three terms if I gave you an hour and offered a $1000 reward.

You're an ignoramus who lost touch with reality long ago yet expects to be taken seriously as a learned scholar despite learning little/nothing.  A fake coin.

Mousetrap

Quote from: Hydra009 on July 31, 2018, 10:09:05 AM
And yet you couldn't accurately define any of those three terms if I gave you an hour and offered a $1000 reward.

You're an ignoramus who lost touch with reality long ago yet expects to be taken seriously as a learned scholar despite learning little/nothing.  A fake coin.
"IF"
If you can keep your head when all about you   
    Are losing theirs and blaming it on you,   
If you can trust yourself when all men doubt you,
    But make allowance for their doubting too;   
If you can wait and not be tired by waiting,
    Or being lied about, don’t deal in lies,
Or being hated, don’t give way to hating,
    And yet don’t look too good, nor talk too wise:
Evolution, the religion whereby one believes your children more human, and your parents more ape, than you!

The Human Mind, if it has nothing to do with Evolution...What an incredible entity...
If it does, what a waste!

Atheism, what a wonderful religion, where one believe to believe is erroneous.

Baruch

Quote from: Mousetrap on July 31, 2018, 10:51:47 AM
"IF"
If you can keep your head when all about you   
    Are losing theirs and blaming it on you,   
If you can trust yourself when all men doubt you,
    But make allowance for their doubting too;   
If you can wait and not be tired by waiting,
    Or being lied about, don’t deal in lies,
Or being hated, don’t give way to hating,
    And yet don’t look too good, nor talk too wise:

Ah, but people here don't like White males, not even dead ones (that quote is from Kipling).
Ha’át’íísh baa naniná?
Azee’ Å,a’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
What are you doing?
Are you taking any medications?
Don't do that.

Cavebear

Quote from: Mousetrap on July 31, 2018, 08:44:49 AM
I know what dangers Atheism, socialism, and communism breeds.
I know what destruction is instructed by Mohammad to Muslims.
I know a snake, a bear, a lion, a spider.
I know who and what to distance myself from.

I also know which religions are no threat to anyone, except in the opposing minds that does not have the capability to distinguish between danger and safe.

It is something a primary school child is capable to achieve, yet you think I am from another planet.

The real question is
When will you take your head out of the hole you dug to escape reality?
Try it.

Being one of the undug-head-in-sand, I feel free to laugh at you.  I think about the damage that religions cause constantly.  Most internal violence is due to religion, most external violence is caused by religion.  There is no escaping the violence and anger expressed by most religions against one another.

And, if the world was entirely religious in many forms or one united one, we would still all be living in caves ankle-deep in our own feces until we had to seek some new cave.  Most scientific advancement has been made by atheists (even if they had to hide their doubts carefully).
Atheist born, atheist bred.  And when I die, atheist dead!

Mousetrap

#24
Quote from: Cavebear on August 01, 2018, 02:40:32 AM
Being one of the undug-head-in-sand, I feel free to laugh at you.  I think about the damage that religions cause constantly.  Most internal violence is due to religion, most external violence is caused by religion.  There is no escaping the violence and anger expressed by most religions against one another.
Wrong again,
You continue to generalize "religion" with being this terrible thing.
Your straw man is such in this case.
Because the Muslims kill on instruction from their Holy Quran, and there was crusades and horrible kings who called them self Christian, all religion is terrible.
Therefore, the Bible should be discarded.

Well, if you insist on such a practice, I will build my straw man and say, because of Stalin, and Pot Pol, et al, all Atheists are mass murderers!

However sure I am of my error, if yours hold true, so does mine!

Evolution, the religion whereby one believes your children more human, and your parents more ape, than you!

The Human Mind, if it has nothing to do with Evolution...What an incredible entity...
If it does, what a waste!

Atheism, what a wonderful religion, where one believe to believe is erroneous.

Mousetrap

Quote from: Cavebear on August 01, 2018, 02:40:32 AM
  Most scientific advancement has been made by atheists (even if they had to hide their doubts carefully).
And all the foundations of the sciences atheists are making advancements on, was constructed by Christians and Jews a long time ago.
Today there are many scientists (Christian), who are expelled from the intellectual world due to them being nothing more than Christian.
All done by Atheists!
Evolution, the religion whereby one believes your children more human, and your parents more ape, than you!

The Human Mind, if it has nothing to do with Evolution...What an incredible entity...
If it does, what a waste!

Atheism, what a wonderful religion, where one believe to believe is erroneous.

Cavebear

Quote from: Mousetrap on August 01, 2018, 03:15:14 AM
Wrong again,
You continue to generalize "religion" with being this terrible thing.
Your straw man is such in this case.
Because the Muslims kill on instruction from their Holy Quran, and there was crusades and horrible kings who called them self Christian, all religion is terrible.
Therefore, the Bible should be discarded.

Well, if you insist on such a practice, I will build my straw man and say, because of Stalin, and Pot Pol, et al, all Atheists are mass murderers!

No, actually, I disregard the bible on its own internal nonsense.

However sure I am of my error, if yours hold true, so does mine!
Atheist born, atheist bred.  And when I die, atheist dead!

Mousetrap

#27
Quote from: Cavebear on August 01, 2018, 03:20:13 AM
No, actually, I disregard the bible on its own internal nonsense.

However sure I am of my error, if yours hold true, so does mine!
Do you realize what you just said?
:cool:
Evolution, the religion whereby one believes your children more human, and your parents more ape, than you!

The Human Mind, if it has nothing to do with Evolution...What an incredible entity...
If it does, what a waste!

Atheism, what a wonderful religion, where one believe to believe is erroneous.

Cavebear

Atheist born, atheist bred.  And when I die, atheist dead!

Mousetrap

Quote from: Cavebear on August 01, 2018, 03:54:27 AM
I'll let you figure it out.
You dont even know!
:evil::laugh:
I planned it this way, and you fell for it!

It is Hillary-ous!!!
Look====
Quote from: CavebearNo, actually, I disregard the bible on its own internal nonsense.

However sure I am of my error, if yours hold true, so does mine!

You are making a wonderful statement that the Bible is correct without any internal nonsense!
Actually, you are doing it in a self destruct mode where you agree that, I am wrong in claiming that Atheists are not mass murderers, and if you claim the Bible is wrong, you know you are wrong.

Gotcha!!!
Evolution, the religion whereby one believes your children more human, and your parents more ape, than you!

The Human Mind, if it has nothing to do with Evolution...What an incredible entity...
If it does, what a waste!

Atheism, what a wonderful religion, where one believe to believe is erroneous.