This is huge: *current* liquid water on Mars.

[Baruch]

We're too late. We can't possibly colonize Mars soon enough to save any significant fraction of Earth's biosphere. And we'd need the biosphere, we can't just haul a bunch of humans to Mars and expect them to survive.

Good way to do a Darwin experiment on Democrats ;-)

[Baruch]

That's an idea that may work. It seems the height of hubris to think Mars is the next step, when we've barely even been to the Moon. That's why God put it there, after all!

Stop dropping your drawers at me already!

[Baruch]

Going to the New World is a terrible idea.

It was, for the humans already here.  Is that you Smallpox Sama?

[Baruch]

Sounds good, I just think it's too optimistic. If we had a colony on Mars it could not be made self-sustaining. If the Earth were to be unable to send supplies, etc. on a regular basis the colony would die. It may not be long before the civilizations of earth will collapse, making it impossible to sustain a Mars colony.

But I'm a pessimist, so I could be wrong.

The Vikings in Greenland weren't pessimistic enough to go back to Iceland.

[Baruch]

Maybe it would be a good first step to put a permanent settlement on the moon first.  Work out some bugs and then think of Mars.

Debugging might take longer than expected ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8WP1hUxbNs8

[Baruch]

Yeah, but ya gotta start somewhere.  If humanity doesn't take these first few steps out, we might never leave the cradle.  No rush or anything, but have you noticed how unstable things are at home?  What happens when the unthinkable happens?

Happened already.  Agriculture invented.  Overpopulation commences.

[Mike Cl]

On both the Moon and Barsoom we may be living in old lava tubes. Practice on Luna so we don't have to guess on Mars.

Well, hell, why don't we ask John Carter; I'm sure he'd let us stay in Helium.

[Unbeliever]

We'll have to use Trump's Space Force to defeat Ming the Merciless before we can occupy Mars.

;-)

[Baruch]

Well, hell, why don't we ask John Carter; I'm sure he'd let us stay in Helium.

My voice would be squeaky high ;-)

I like retro sci fi ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nlvYKl1fjBI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zH7KZD5vGBY

[Mike Cl]

My voice would be squeaky high ;-)

I like retro sci fi ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nlvYKl1fjBI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zH7KZD5vGBY

The books are better.

[Jason78]

Living on Mars is going to be a lot tougher than is generally believed:

With that attitude we'd still be living in the trees.

You could easily make a list of 5 reasons why bipedal locomotion is a bad idea.

[Baruch]

With that attitude we'd still be living in the trees.

You could easily make a list of 5 reasons why bipedal locomotion is a bad idea.

Says a cute doggie ;-)

[Cavebear]

I like it! Lake Hillary - I wonder how you could spread the idea? :-)

Mention it on Facebook.  Everyone trusts Facebook.  LOL!

Ooh, ooh, say that TRUMP named it Lake Hillary!

[Gawdzilla Sama]

Mention it on Facebook.  Everyone trusts Facebook.  LOL!

Ooh, ooh, say that TRUMP named it Lake Hillary!

Anything T.rump says is flake news.

[Cavebear]

Anything T.rump says is flake news.

Not to his followers (all 200 of them at Fox News).  If HE (deity capitals) says it is, it is.