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Started by pr126, July 25, 2018, 11:56:02 AM

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Cavebear

Quote from: Munch on July 25, 2018, 03:39:52 PM
I've already said, structure. I am part of a minority but I've never felt oppressed because of it, I've never felt the need to attack the world and force it to change to suit me, because I was raised by a loving mother who while accepting me for what made me happy, also worked on giving me ways of surviving in the world, getting some clout as she called it, and rather then forcing how she wanted me to be, she gave me insight into those things that mattered.

its funny, so often you see this motivational captions on things like tumblr with messages like 'be brave in being yourself' or 'nobody can tell you how to be but you'. And yet stuff like this, what these parents are doing, is to be as disturbing as forcing into a child 'thou shalt not be gay or burn in hell!', because its the parents forcing an ideology on a child rather then letting them come into their own and encouraging growth in that.

I don't think it is the parents forcing a gender concern on the child...
Atheist born, atheist bred.  And when I die, atheist dead!

Munch

Quote from: Cavebear on July 25, 2018, 03:49:30 PM
I don't think it is the parents forcing a gender concern on the child...

One thing any patent should have, more then anything else, is teaching their children how to fit in with society, so they don't feel like outcasts later on.

As one of the posters on the original NBC video said:

Quoteits not really fair to the kids, sending them out into a world where they are going to be clearly at odds with the others.
A lot of the time kids just want to fit in with the other kids and these selfish parents have taken that from them because of their weird politics they got from reading some vegan spirituality blog
'Political correctness is fascism pretending to be manners' - George Carlin

Cavebear

Quote from: Munch on July 25, 2018, 04:07:52 PM
One thing any patent should have, more then anything else, is teaching their children how to fit in with society, so they don't feel like outcasts later on.

I can't believe you are saying this.  So you are going "straight" now?
Atheist born, atheist bred.  And when I die, atheist dead!

Baruch

Quote from: Cavebear on July 25, 2018, 03:29:19 PM
I do understand that.  But you are among a minority that has struggled for acceptance.  What about the 1 in a million who also need acceptance?  I don't actually have skin in this game.  But I wonder sometimes, what if I was one of "them".  What if YOU were?  What would I want from life?

No, what about the very sad one in a billion?  That is 1000 times worse!!  That is seven whole abused people.  Destroy Western Civilization, and all males, right now!

What victim status do you carry in your wallet? - New sales jingle for Capital One socialist credit card ;-)
Ha’át’íísh baa naniná?
Azee’ Å,a’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
What are you doing?
Are you taking any medications?
Don't do that.

Baruch

#19
Socialist parents parent like Stalin (look it up).  On the other hand parents have been messing up children from the start.
Ha’át’íísh baa naniná?
Azee’ Å,a’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
What are you doing?
Are you taking any medications?
Don't do that.

Baruch

#20
Quote from: SGOS on July 25, 2018, 03:38:23 PM
They just do it to bug you.
Because they kill those who stray too far from the norm.

The people who are willing to kill for their cause ... will win.  Pacifists should be killed first ;-)  They are a cancer on manliness.
Ha’át’íísh baa naniná?
Azee’ Å,a’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
What are you doing?
Are you taking any medications?
Don't do that.

Baruch

Quote from: Munch on July 25, 2018, 04:07:52 PM
One thing any patent should have, more then anything else, is teaching their children how to fit in with society, so they don't feel like outcasts later on.

As one of the posters on the original NBC video said:

But society is evil, we must destroy society!  Children of the Corn, Unite!  You have only your parents to kill and eat.
Ha’át’íísh baa naniná?
Azee’ Å,a’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
What are you doing?
Are you taking any medications?
Don't do that.

Munch

Quote from: Cavebear on July 25, 2018, 04:48:45 PM
I can't believe you are saying this.  So you are going "straight" now?

When I say fitting into society, I mean teaching kids the right kind of things so they won't be social shut in's or blame the rest of the world for feeling inadequate. We see enough of that already on uni and collage campuses
'Political correctness is fascism pretending to be manners' - George Carlin

Baruch

Quote from: Munch on July 25, 2018, 08:07:51 PM
When I say fitting into society, I mean teaching kids the right kind of things so they won't be social shut in's or blame the rest of the world for feeling inadequate. We see enough of that already on uni and collage campuses

Young adults are simply teens with their own cars.  So they don't have to ask dad for the keys.  But you have to start somewhere ... usually starting with diapers.

Unfortunately the academics do a shitty job of teaching anything practical.  Damn Poindexters.
Ha’át’íísh baa naniná?
Azee’ Å,a’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
What are you doing?
Are you taking any medications?
Don't do that.

Cavebear

Quote from: Munch on July 25, 2018, 08:07:51 PM
When I say fitting into society, I mean teaching kids the right kind of things so they won't be social shut in's or blame the rest of the world for feeling inadequate. We see enough of that already on uni and collage campuses

What "right kinds of things" are you proposing?  A lot of people would say you aren't one of those.  It does sound slightly like the pot calling the kettle black...
Atheist born, atheist bred.  And when I die, atheist dead!

Baruch

Quote from: Cavebear on August 01, 2018, 04:24:22 AM
What "right kinds of things" are you proposing?  A lot of people would say you aren't one of those.  It does sound slightly like the pot calling the kettle black...

In Britain they had a pretty good college system, until recently ...

https://www.brookings.edu/research/lessons-from-the-end-of-free-college-in-england/

Prior to 1998 ... it was free.
Ha’át’íísh baa naniná?
Azee’ Å,a’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
What are you doing?
Are you taking any medications?
Don't do that.

Cavebear

Quote from: Baruch on August 01, 2018, 08:03:26 PM
In Britain they had a pretty good college system, until recently ...

https://www.brookings.edu/research/lessons-from-the-end-of-free-college-in-england/

Prior to 1998 ... it was free.

Yeah, that free college thing was a ruiner...  Nothing ever came from THAT.  LOL!
Atheist born, atheist bred.  And when I die, atheist dead!

pr126

Free college? No such thing. Someone has to pay for it.
Teachers, professors, admin get salary.

Cavebear

Quote from: pr126 on August 04, 2018, 02:17:22 AM
Free college? No such thing. Someone has to pay for it.
Teachers, professors, admin get salary.

Free to the students, PR... I think MOST people understood that.  A logical extension of K-12 as educational demands increase... 
Atheist born, atheist bred.  And when I die, atheist dead!

Baruch

Quote from: Cavebear on August 04, 2018, 02:20:55 AM
Free to the students, PR... I think MOST people understood that.  A logical extension of K-12 as educational demands increase...

Correct.  But pr126 is still trying to get the soccer hooligans out of his front yard ;-)
Ha’át’íísh baa naniná?
Azee’ Å,a’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
What are you doing?
Are you taking any medications?
Don't do that.