News for crickets ... that is all I hear about this ... just crickets ...

Started by Baruch, July 17, 2018, 07:41:07 AM

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Baruch

"All words, particularly Logos, is just semantics" ... said by every meaning-nihilist ever.

Basically, if I have power, and want to apply it, then I get to tell you to jump, and you ask me nicely, how high!

This is how humans behave.  And yes, we completely squid-ink it with spoken and written BS.  Just because the squid shoots ink, doesn't mean he was never there, in fact it proved he was.
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Baruch

Quote from: Unbeliever on April 17, 2019, 01:19:20 PM
I think of the universe as being alive through us, since the universe engendered us, and we are wholly in and of the universe. So I don't think it's the case that the universe contains life, but that the universe is alive - but only through the things we call "alive," like ourselves. Life is emergent from the simple rules of the cosmic game, like the wetness of water emerging from the non-wetness of its molecular structure.

This isn't a bad, modern view.  I can support it at least as a biology thing, if not a humanist thing.

Philosophically, epiphenomenalism or emergentism, doesn't make sense, but I don't have to solve the mystery, I just need to recognize it.
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Cavebear

Quote from: Baruch on April 15, 2019, 10:34:23 AM
Sorry, I guess you are just another SJW ... and such an old one too ;-)

I don't mind if you hate Trump.  What I mind is that you hate anyone who doesn't hate Trump.  And hate anyone who hates the Clintons.  Hatfields and McCoys are like that.  Just used to live down the road from real hillbillies, not bad folks, if you can get around the wheeless car on blocks in their front yard ;-)

I will be happy if no Clinton, including Chelsea, ever runs for office again.  Let them enjoy their pay for play money in the Caymans.

But worry where this is going, the Left has become Oroboros, the dragon eating its own tail.  Eventually you will not be "liberal" enough to be a Dem, maybe already so.  The Bolsheviks inevitably purge the Mensheviks and Anarchists.

You are so sadly mixing up logic and opinion again.  You call anyone who disagrees with you a Social Justice Warrior (as if that was a bad thing), insult the experience of age, imply that anyone who does not love Trump must be a hater, suggests that hating the Clintons must be a hater, involves Chelsea Clinton (who merely had the misfortune to grow up in the White House) in your anger, etc.

I do know about the Worm Ouroboros, of course.  I read the book (pretty lame).  Mostly some garble about The Midgard Serpent and medieval weirdness.  But it WAS earlt fantasy, so I allow some forgiveness for that.  It's been a long time since I read it, but wasn't that the one with the bird with no feet beginning the story and then never being heard from again? 

And you base an argument on THAT?

Oh, and the Hatfields and McCoys.  Have you ever read about the actual history.  You should try it.  It was mostly just one of many US Civil War local feuds in border States that lasted longer than others. 
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Baruch

I put two and two together on many levels.  But I never come up with "Hillary is innocent".  Of course the Clinton Crime Family isn't the only crime family on the planet.

Chelsea is an adult.  Implicated in the money laundering and foreign government influence machine called The Clinton Foundation.
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Baruch

"NXIVM Sex-Cult Prosecutors Have Evidence Of Illegal Clinton Campaign Contributions For "Political Influence"" ... yeah, color me redacted ;-(
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Baruch

"Exposing The World's Hypocritical Silence As China Imprisons Its Ethnic Muslims En Masse" ... NIMBY strikes again
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Baruch

"Poll Finds Most People OK With Raising Taxes On Other People" ... and underlying motive for brain dead socialism.
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Cavebear

Quote from: Baruch on April 18, 2019, 10:15:20 AM
I put two and two together on many levels.  But I never come up with "Hillary is innocent".  Of course the Clinton Crime Family isn't the only crime family on the planet.

Chelsea is an adult.  Implicated in the money laundering and foreign government influence machine called The Clinton Foundation.

So you are demonstrating that you failed at both History AND Math?  That takes some effort.
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Baruch

Quote from: Cavebear on April 18, 2019, 04:15:23 PM
So you are demonstrating that you failed at both History AND Math?  That takes some effort.

Sorry, all I hear are cave bear grunts while sleeping off some moonshine.

History is opinion mostly, the part people like, which gets into motivation.  There is no recent math question in this chain.
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Cavebear

Quote from: Baruch on April 18, 2019, 05:25:42 PM
Sorry, all I hear are cave bear grunts while sleeping off some moonshine.

History is opinion mostly, the part people like, which gets into motivation.  There is no recent math question in this chain.
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Happy Easter, you Jesuit...  I won't bother any christians this weekend.  Ya gotta right to yer days...

;) 

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Baruch

“Mueller considered pressing charges in connection with the Trump Tower meeting … completely omits the involvement of Fusion GPS in the Trump tower meeting” ... any report that doesn't show that Trump is Satan, is a coverup.
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Baruch

"CNN Op-Ed Admits "Mueller's Report Looks Bad For Obama"" ... duh, not the only bad thing that happened under his watch.  But I don't blame presidents for every thing, or give them credit for everything.  I am not a cult of personality person, unlike the other Maoists here ;-)
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Baruch

"Zombie Science: Researchers Kept The Brains Of Decapitated Pigs Alive For 36 Hours" ... future US or EU legislators?
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Baruch

"'We Must Do Our Duty': Progressives Defy Pelosi On Impeachment" .. once you let the post-modernists out of the closet, everyone knows you are a nut case.  I give the Progressives credit, they at least have balls.  But they may end up committing feminist suttee on the funeral pyre of the D-party.
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aitm

Quote from: Unbeliever on April 17, 2019, 01:19:20 PM
I think of the universe as being alive through us, since the universe engendered us,

I am of the opposite. The universe is mostly dead, vastly...mostly dead. Like a carcass of an elephant frozen forever but yet in a small part of the bladder perhaps, a cell had an infection that somehow manages to survive...barely. Like the dead elephant, the universe knows nothing of our "existence" as it is dead. However, even if the universe could, it could not discern us from the squirrel, or termite, or even our planet. We are indeed this small and useless and completely ignored.....but not by design.....but because it is dead.
A humans desire to live is exceeded only by their willingness to die for another. Even god cannot equal this magnificent sacrifice. No god has the right to judge them.-first tenant of the Panotheust