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Offline Baruch

Re: So It Seems That Brexit Has Become a Category 5 Shitstorm
« Reply #960 on: December 23, 2019, 10:42:17 AM »
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I'm more interested in IF Germany should dominate Europe. I see very little reason they shouldn't.

There are Germanophilia and Germanophobia.  This is based entirely on emotion (as SJW have proven).  It was British policy for over 200 years to prevent any single power dominating Europe, including France, Germany or Russia.  Was that a good policy?  Ultimately at great cost, French and Russian domination was avoided.  German domination was stopped twice, but the Germans were successful on the third try (though they are still occupied by US troops).  I have tried to overcome WW II prejudice I have.  Being part German myself.  That is why I have concentrated on the German Empire in my posts.  Perhaps all of continental Europe including Ukraine should have been dominated by Germany.  But Russia would have been sad ;-(
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Offline Baruch

Re: So It Seems That Brexit Has Become a Category 5 Shitstorm
« Reply #961 on: December 23, 2019, 10:44:52 AM »
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Hey is almost happened decades ago, maybe they should open up the camps again :)

Under E Germany now, with un-reconstructed Nazis in the Communist regime after the war.  W Germany did what it could to de-Nazify.  Now Europe is under E Germany 2.0 and Vichy France 2.0.  Is that bad?  Only GB has burned Washington DC.
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Offline Baruch

Re: So It Seems That Brexit Has Become a Category 5 Shitstorm
« Reply #962 on: December 23, 2019, 10:47:13 AM »
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I've been trying to grasp Shiranu's perception about this, but I'm totally at a loss to understand why he thinks this.

Hypothesis .. Shiranu is a recovering SJW.  He is of mixed ancestry, and relates best to his non-White non-Anglophone parts.  Nothing wrong with that.  I relate to my English parts better than my Irish/Scottish/Welsh parts … or my Germanic parts.  Anglophile totally.
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Offline Baruch

Re: So It Seems That Brexit Has Become a Category 5 Shitstorm
« Reply #963 on: December 23, 2019, 10:56:58 AM »
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Looks like Scotland doesn't want to leave the EU. Are they going to have to split from England?

Unless England kicks them out first.  The merger was in 1707, because Scotland was bankrupt.  In 1715 and 1745 the Highlanders, who didn't accept the debt of the Lowlanders, revolted and lost.  England retaliated by enclosure, suppression and deportation of most Highlanders.  Basically a contest between Campbells (lowland) and McClouds (highland) that England intervened in.

Scotland today had its own partial parliament.  And they are running into financial difficulty again (SNP and Labour are authoritarian socialist).  So of course, that faction in Scotland, wants to be part of the EUSR.  Same as the Republic of Ireland and their desire to reverse a 400 year old colonization by the English (ended in 1920s) and the Scottish (1600+).

Why?  Because Catholic Ireland and Presbyterian Scotland were constantly allied with Spain and France, forming an existential threat to England.  In 1745, Bonnie Prince Charlie nearly won, could have taken London.  But they got cold feet, due to false rumors of a non-existent English army.  Culloden happened after the Scottish army retreated due to the fog of war and the English had time to reinforce.
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Offline Munch

Re: So It Seems That Brexit Has Become a Category 5 Shitstorm
« Reply #964 on: December 23, 2019, 05:46:01 PM »
I'll be honest, in a selfish way, I use to be concerned about Scotland cutting from the UK and staying in the EU, due to my partner's living their and how important it felt to have that ease between the two places.
Now they live in Northern Ireland I no longer care, though I did love scotland when visiting, think it's a beautiful country, my sights are no longer on it anymore, and I have little reason to revisit it now. So if Scotland did break from the UK, I wouldn't be as concerned about it as I would have a year ago.

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Offline Green Bottle

Re: So It Seems That Brexit Has Become a Category 5 Shitstorm
« Reply #965 on: December 28, 2019, 02:02:14 PM »
God doesnt exist, but if he did id tell him to ''Fuck Off''

Offline Munch

Re: So It Seems That Brexit Has Become a Category 5 Shitstorm
« Reply #966 on: December 28, 2019, 03:14:35 PM »
We've had a show like that for years, its called EastEnders
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Offline Baruch

Re: So It Seems That Brexit Has Become a Category 5 Shitstorm
« Reply #967 on: December 28, 2019, 09:27:11 PM »
"Britain's Security Services Granted License To Kill" ... court confirmation that this already was true.  007 is real.  But he doesn't do anything more useful than screw beautiful dames.
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Offline Baruch

Re: So It Seems That Brexit Has Become a Category 5 Shitstorm
« Reply #968 on: December 30, 2019, 08:00:44 AM »
"Did Macron And Johnson Negotiate A Hard Brexit In October?" ... conspiracy theory.  Macron wants to take over the EU from Merkel.  Hard Brexit is one way, by creating an economic collapse that can be blamed on UK and Merkel.
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Re: So It Seems That Brexit Has Become a Category 5 Shitstorm
« Reply #969 on: December 31, 2019, 12:19:31 AM »
You must admit that there's plenty of room for a shit storm here.

I've discussed trade wars before, and the response is "but they would be hurting themselves".  A very funny response because in every war, be it a trade war or a shooting war, the winning side takes some damage but inflicts more damage on the other side.  If no country every took a move that would harm itself, then no country would ever wage war.

I have plenty of people telling me that the EU is more than willing to engage in self-harming trade wars against the UK to punish the UK for daring to leave.  This would make it messy.
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Offline Baruch

Re: So It Seems That Brexit Has Become a Category 5 Shitstorm
« Reply #970 on: December 31, 2019, 10:58:31 AM »
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You must admit that there's plenty of room for a shit storm here.

I've discussed trade wars before, and the response is "but they would be hurting themselves".  A very funny response because in every war, be it a trade war or a shooting war, the winning side takes some damage but inflicts more damage on the other side.  If no country every took a move that would harm itself, then no country would ever wage war.

I have plenty of people telling me that the EU is more than willing to engage in self-harming trade wars against the UK to punish the UK for daring to leave.  This would make it messy.

EU has no choice.  Without net funding input (GB and others) the EUSR is just welfare mothers ... the biggest being Germany and France.  Net welfare for Germany/France is necessary for their domestic politics.  So this is existential for them.  War will happen eventually, or Labour will take GB back into the hands of Mother Merkel (to prevent war).

A bit of history.  GB wants to be Singapore West.  But Ireland already was this, with very favorable corporate tax better than GB.  The EUSR had to Borg Ireland, and had them vote multiple times on wanting to be admitted to the new E Germany.  GB never got to vote, their Parliament decided for them, which is the open door thru which Brexit happened.  Now Ireland has no economic competition other than peat bogs and Bailey's.  Nobody can be allowed to compete with Germany (and its French poodle).  This is what GB was trying to prevent since 1870.

"MERKELS NEW CENSORSHIP LEGISLATION EVEN OPPOSED BY THE FAR LEFT" ... when the going gets tough, Merkel proves it is Stazi all the way down.
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Offline trdsf

Re: So It Seems That Brexit Has Become a Category 5 Shitstorm
« Reply #971 on: January 05, 2020, 11:33:28 AM »
Some good might come out of Brexit after all -- it seems the ongoing clusterfuck has You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login.  "Frexit" and "Dexit" proposals have vanished from the manifestoes of Le Pen's National Front and Alternativ für Deutschland, and other right-wing nationalist parties have stopped talking about referenda and *exits because they look across they look across the Channel and shudder.  Johnson's electoral victory isn't going to change that, because part of what he needed to do to win was promise ex-Labour voters that he won't be a right-wing nationalist -- and of course once Brexit is done, ex-Labour voters won't need him anymore.

Meanwhile, Twitter user RussInCheshire previews the UK-EU trade talks... You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login.
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Re: So It Seems That Brexit Has Become a Category 5 Shitstorm
« Reply #972 on: January 05, 2020, 02:13:07 PM »
The elites have learned that if you let the peasants decide they might choose the wrong thing.  British peasants chose Brexit, US peasants chose Trump, and French peasants almost chose LePen.

So don't even let them vote on it.  It is too risky.
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Offline Shiranu

Re: So It Seems That Brexit Has Become a Category 5 Shitstorm
« Reply #973 on: January 05, 2020, 02:18:16 PM »
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...US peasants chose Trump...

>implying it wasn't the elites who chose Trump, especially since he lost the popular vote by several million.



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...British peasants chose Brexit...

>implying it wasn't the elites who pushed Brexit.




The "peasants" have a very strange way of always voting in favour of the aristocracies interest, and you think the aristocracy wants to take that away from them?

Big. Lawls.

I bet you think middle class white people are the "peasants", ignoring the much larger demographics of actual peasants who have been systematically disenfranchised and had their voice stripped away from them.
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