Author Topic: Early Christian Schisms  (Read 1060 times)

Offline Cavebear

Re: Early Christian Schisms
« Reply #15 on: September 08, 2018, 04:03:59 AM »
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The heresies of the early days were more interesting.

Jesus was only divine
Jesus was only man
John was the messiah, not Jesus
The various Gnostic heresies

Today all we get is Creationism.

Evidence of the existence of Jesus would be a good start to your supposition.  Proof of divinity would be good too.  Same about John (does that make you a "Johnist")?
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Offline Baruch

Re: Early Christian Schisms
« Reply #16 on: September 08, 2018, 08:46:23 AM »
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Evidence of the existence of Jesus would be a good start to your supposition.  Proof of divinity would be good too.  Same about John (does that make you a "Johnist")?

Skepticism is good.  There are lots of guys in Mexico named Jesus, today.  Same with Anglos named John.  And I lowered the bar on divinity.
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Re: Early Christian Schisms
« Reply #17 on: September 08, 2018, 02:26:29 PM »
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Evidence of the existence of Jesus would be a good start to your supposition.  Proof of divinity would be good too.  Same about John (does that make you a "Johnist")?
He was only referencing early "heresies" not saying he believes any of them.
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Offline Cavebear

Re: Early Christian Schisms
« Reply #18 on: September 08, 2018, 02:31:23 PM »
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He was only referencing early "heresies" not saying he believes any of them.

I know.  But I have to have some fun too.  He DID kind of invite the "Johnism" reference.  ;)
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Offline Baruch

Re: Early Christian Schisms
« Reply #19 on: September 08, 2018, 02:35:34 PM »
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I know.  But I have to have some fun too.  He DID kind of invite the "Johnism" reference.  ;)

Actually, Johnism is a thing.  They are called Mandeans:

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If you aren't ignorant of Judaism etc, one will recognize this liturgical clothing with Jews on Yom Kippur (and burial customs), Muslims at Hajj and burial, Zoroastrians, early Christian baptisms.  This is all part of comparative anthropology.  Of course there have always been scoffers and the libertines.

People here are like colonialists gawking at pictures of women in the Amazon who don't wear a bra.  We are the uber-mensch.
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Re: Early Christian Schisms
« Reply #20 on: September 08, 2018, 02:41:10 PM »
I thank God every day that I'm an unbeliever!
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Offline Baruch

Re: Early Christian Schisms
« Reply #21 on: September 08, 2018, 02:44:25 PM »
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I thank God every day that I'm an unbeliever!

That way, you never have to take a bath ;-))
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Re: Early Christian Schisms
« Reply #22 on: December 09, 2018, 03:26:02 PM »
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Yeah, they used to have fun in the "good old days".  It is always a good time to kill Jews.
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Yeah, they used to have fun in the "good old days".  It is always a good time to kill Jews.

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Offline Baruch

Re: Early Christian Schisms
« Reply #23 on: December 09, 2018, 03:33:19 PM »
So? - Dick Cheney, US President 2001 - 2009.
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Re: Early Christian Schisms
« Reply #24 on: December 09, 2018, 05:28:29 PM »
"Cassius Clay and Mrs. Wallace dancing cheek to cheek..."

What a lovely image!
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Offline Baruch

Re: Early Christian Schisms
« Reply #25 on: December 09, 2018, 07:51:27 PM »
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"Cassius Clay and Mrs. Wallace dancing cheek to cheek..."

What a lovely image!

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