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Started by pr126, July 13, 2018, 02:04:35 PM

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Baruch

#61
Quote from: SGOS on July 29, 2018, 10:07:26 AM
I'm suspect of any data released by the government.  I think the first hit was when they were declaring 1% inflation,\ when I knew my expenses were up at least 25%.  Even if I was exaggerating in my head, I seriously doubted the  government's claim.  Then I learned inflation is determined by a sample of basket indicators.  Indicators are removed from the basket and replaced by others.  The government claims that some indicators are no longer indicative of actual inflation, and have to be replaced.

But who determines this and by what method?  Well, the government of course, and think of how they can manipulate the basket to produce the results they want.   Recession since 2005?  It's probably been longer than that. Or maybe there was a slight uptick in 2005 which became a new baseline.

Shadowstats says that inflation right now in the US is around 10% .. that correlates with my personal experience.  Just think in 4 years of school, your dollars will only buy 2/3 as much stuff.  Yeah US.  Yes, look at the curve, a short uptick in 2005 is exactly correct, any positive growth is a new baseline.

Remember, US inflation doesn't include food or fuel (might as well not include anything other than Pokemon trading cards).

Of course news is negative ... that is what sells.  It is the news consumer who is responsible.  Monkeys love their doom porn.

That and obsession ... there is more going on each day than what Trump had for breakfast.
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Azee’ Å,a’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
What are you doing?
Are you taking any medications?
Don't do that.

Shiranu

Quote from: SGOS on July 29, 2018, 10:12:08 AM
Yeah, but didn't Trump himself say something like,  "Since I have been president, we have never before seen such unprecedented growth."  He would never exaggerate like that.  It's just not in his nature.

True. I know the people who tout taking their sources with grains of salt would have fact checked Trump when he said that as well and not just instantly repeated it and circle-jerk liked each other as they repeated it, so it probably isn't an exaggeration.

(*whispers* - even though in their own link it says it's the 3rd highest growth since 2008, meaning it cant be too unprecedented...)
"A little science distances you from God, but a lot of science brings you nearer to Him." - Louis Pasteur

Baruch

#63
Quote from: Shiranu on July 29, 2018, 10:18:47 AM
True. I know the people who tout taking their sources with grains of salt would have fact checked Trump when he said that as well and not just instantly repeated it and circle-jerk liked each other as they repeated it, so it probably isn't an exaggeration.

(*whispers* - even though in their own link it says it's the 3rd highest growth since 2008, meaning it cant be too unprecedented...)

Sorry, nobody, including Red Cortez, has any political courage (look what Profiles in Courage got JFK?).  It is like military intelligence (self contradiction).  Her background isn't underprivileged ... not that I would have held either condition against her.

I check my sources.  I read one far-right source and one far-left source, and consider both of them worthless for what is actually going on.  I do two fisted doom porn.
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Baruch

I realize, in New Speak, all words are synonyms of each other, but ...

https://www.realclearpolicy.com/articles/2018/07/27/sanders_and_ocasio-cortez_arent_socialists__what_are_they_110732.html

But Red Bernie and Red Cortez are actually socialist like Hitler, not like Stalin aka they are fascist.  Just not the same kind of fascism as the oligarchs.

They are dirigisme.  Because they favor stealth nationalization, not direct nationalization.  As ACA was in fact, dirigisme.  Government control something, while not bothering to own it.  Aka tyranny.  Like Hitler, not Stalin.  Or in fact as Mussolini defined "fascism".
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pr126

#65
There's No Such Thing as 'Democratic Socialism'
QuoteThe new darling of the Democratic Party and the liberal mainstream media is Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, the bright-eyed twenty-something who upended long-time House member Joe Crowley in a New York state Democratic primary a few weeks ago. In their breathless, frenzied rush to anoint Ocasio-Cortez as the coming of the Savior of the Nation, liberals across the land have wholeheartedly embraced her call for “Democratic Socialism.”

Ignoring the fact that Bernie Sanders espoused essentially the exact same things in the last presidential campaign but was unceremoniously and dishonestly pushed aside by the Democratic Party in favor of Hillary Clinton, what exactly is this “democratic socialism” that seems to have everyone on that side of the fence so atwitter these days?

What Democrats think it is sounds good: income equality, a fair living wage for everyone, plentiful employment opportunities, quality healthcare coverage for all, affordable college education for all who want it, easy access to affordable, quality housing, and a tax system where the so-called rich pay their “fair share.”

While they’re at it, the Ocasio-Cortez’s of the world would also abolish ICE while ending most immigration restrictions, end what they see as our destructive international interventionism and put a stop to Israel’s occupation and oppression of Palestine. What these last three have to do with either “democracy” or “socialism” is unclear, but there it is anyway.

Baruch

Democratic like East Germany.  Why did Germany elect a chancellor who was born n E Germany?  Just being PC?
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pr126

#67
Quote from: Baruch on July 30, 2018, 12:27:35 PM
Democratic like East Germany.  Why did Germany elect a chancellor who was born n E Germany?  Just being PC?
She was a member of the Stasi .

A communist. Best qualified for the job.

QuoteBut former German Transport Minister Günther Krause -- an eastern German politician who worked with her in the final months of the GDR and as a fellow minister in the government ex-chancellor Helmut Kohl in the early 1990s -- contradicts her in the book and says she propagated Marxism-Leninism.

"With Agitation and Propaganda you're responsible for brainwashing in the sense of Marxism," he said. "That was her task and that wasn't cultural work. Agitation and Propaganda, that was the group that was meant to fill people's brains with everything you were supposed to believe in the GDR, with all the ideological tricks. And what annoys me about this woman is simply the fact that she doesn't admit to a closeness to the system in the GDR. From a scientific standpoint she wasn't indispensable at the Academy of Sciences. But she was useful as a pastor's daughter in terms of Marxism-Leninism. And she's denying that. But it's the truth."

Cavebear

Quote from: pr126 on July 30, 2018, 01:28:45 PM
She was a member of the Stasi .

A communist. Best qualified for the job.

Best qualified to lead unified Germany.
Atheist born, atheist bred.  And when I die, atheist dead!

Baruch

Quote from: Cavebear on August 01, 2018, 04:10:25 AM
Best qualified to lead unified Germany.

Only if you are Putin's poodle.
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pr126

Democratic Socialism: In the USA that would be good news.

No more obese people.  Wouldn't that be nice?
Everyone is looking as trim as Ms. Cortez.

Well, perhaps minus the smile.




Baruch

Quote from: pr126 on August 02, 2018, 12:04:36 PM
Democratic Socialism: In the USA that would be good news.

No more obese people.  Wouldn't that be nice?
Everyone is looking as trim as Ms. Cortez.

Well, perhaps minus the smile.



Every tyranny ever ... whippings will continue until morale improves!  Everything is forbidden, except for what is mandatory.
Ha’át’íísh baa naniná?
Azee’ Å,a’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
What are you doing?
Are you taking any medications?
Don't do that.

Shiranu

Quote from: pr126 on August 02, 2018, 12:04:36 PM
Democratic Socialism: In the USA that would be good news.

No more obese people.  Wouldn't that be nice?
Everyone is looking as trim as Ms. Cortez.

Well, perhaps minus the smile.





Knowing that a successful brown woman gets so under your skin makes me just a little bit giddily, so thank you for that :).
"A little science distances you from God, but a lot of science brings you nearer to Him." - Louis Pasteur

Baruch

Quote from: Shiranu on August 02, 2018, 07:29:14 PM
Knowing that a successful brown woman gets so under your skin makes me just a little bit giddily, so thank you for that :).

As a fellow "brown", you are just hoping for a hot date with her ;-)

Success is over-rated ... beware pursuing it yourself.
Ha’át’íísh baa naniná?
Azee’ Å,a’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
What are you doing?
Are you taking any medications?
Don't do that.

pr126

#74
Never forget to mention that all-important melanin content!
Identity politics. Where would we be without it?

But anyway. Here is the Dem party’s new mascot.
By December she will be a nobody again.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jaVMwp0Itds