Author Topic: 'Democratic Socialists'  (Read 1922 times)

Offline pr126

'Democratic Socialists'
« on: July 13, 2018, 02:04:35 PM »
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"Propaganda works best when those who are being manipulated are confident they are acting on their free will."
 - Joseph Goebbels

Cognitive-dissonance is fighting for women's rights and LBGT rights while defending Islam and Muslims against "Islamophobia".

Offline Cavebear

Re: 'Democratic Socialists'
« Reply #1 on: July 13, 2018, 02:05:44 PM »
Yep!
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Offline pr126

Re: 'Democratic Socialists'
« Reply #2 on: July 13, 2018, 02:18:51 PM »
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"Propaganda works best when those who are being manipulated are confident they are acting on their free will."
 - Joseph Goebbels

Cognitive-dissonance is fighting for women's rights and LBGT rights while defending Islam and Muslims against "Islamophobia".

Offline Baruch

Re: 'Democratic Socialists'
« Reply #3 on: July 13, 2018, 07:49:38 PM »
Must be nice being Warren Buffet or George Soros ... until they are burning in Hell ...

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they don't serve Ds or Rs anything nice, in Hell.
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Re: 'Democratic Socialists'
« Reply #4 on: July 14, 2018, 07:44:46 PM »
What we have here is corporate socialism, but the right-wing meme machine is just fine with that:

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Between 2007 and 2012, 200 of America’s most politically active corporations spent a combined $5.8 billion on federal lobbying and campaign contributions. A year-long analysis by the Sunlight Foundation suggests, however, that what they gave pales compared to what those same corporations got: $4.4 trillion in federal business and support.

That figure, more than the $4.3 trillion the federal government paid the nation’s 50 million Social Security recipients over the same period, is the result of an unprecedented effort to quantify the less-examined side of the campaign finance equation: Do political donors get something in return for what they give?


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Offline Shiranu

Re: 'Democratic Socialists'
« Reply #5 on: July 14, 2018, 10:01:01 PM »
This seems like as good of time to ask as any, while we are talking about "socialists"...

Pol Pot is normally held up as one of the pinnacle failures of socialism, and yet the violence of the Khmer Rouge was funded for and armed by Western powers who feared Vietnam's Communist party (and thus the Soviets) gaining too much power in the region.

Do "conservatives" (and I use that word very loosely because far-right ideologues only care about regressive-conservative social policy and nothing else that could be called conservative) realise every time they bring up Pol Pot as the "enemy", they are in truth bringing up one of the most violent and inhumane regimes that ever existed that was supported by their idols and their ideology?

"Judge a moth by the beauty of its candle." - Rumi

Offline Shiranu

Re: 'Democratic Socialists'
« Reply #6 on: July 14, 2018, 10:04:44 PM »
Back on topic though... I know pr loves short little pictures without any commentary, so maybe this will get to him.

That awkward moment when, by today's standards, America's greatest president would be considered a "Democratic Socialist"...










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Offline Baruch

Re: 'Democratic Socialists'
« Reply #7 on: July 14, 2018, 10:46:25 PM »
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This seems like as good of time to ask as any, while we are talking about "socialists"...

Pol Pot is normally held up as one of the pinnacle failures of socialism, and yet the violence of the Khmer Rouge was funded for and armed by Western powers who feared Vietnam's Communist party (and thus the Soviets) gaining too much power in the region.

Do "conservatives" (and I use that word very loosely because far-right ideologues only care about regressive-conservative social policy and nothing else that could be called conservative) realise every time they bring up Pol Pot as the "enemy", they are in truth bringing up one of the most violent and inhumane regimes that ever existed that was supported by their idols and their ideology?

Every person who tried to kill European Americans, going back to Roanoke Island ... aren't they your heroes?  Pol Pot mostly killed Cambodians.  He was pure communist, too communist even for the Vietnamese, who had to invade Cambodia, to kick him out.  You can go communist, but never go full communist.

Are you sure you wouldn't have been out there, flying with the Japanese, against Pearl Harbor ... given the chance?  After all, FDR was rich.

UN =  League of Nations = POS.
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Offline Cavebear

Re: 'Democratic Socialists'
« Reply #8 on: July 21, 2018, 01:49:46 PM »
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Every person who tried to kill European Americans, going back to Roanoke Island ... aren't they your heroes?  Pol Pot mostly killed Cambodians.  He was pure communist, too communist even for the Vietnamese, who had to invade Cambodia, to kick him out.  You can go communist, but never go full communist.

Are you sure you wouldn't have been out there, flying with the Japanese, against Pearl Harbor ... given the chance?  After all, FDR was rich.

UN =  League of Nations = POS.

I have often thought that if the insanely communist N. Viets invaded Cambodia because Pol Pot was "too insane" he must have been AWESOMELY "strong and powerful".  Trump would have LOVED him!
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Offline Baruch

Re: 'Democratic Socialists'
« Reply #9 on: July 21, 2018, 02:01:47 PM »
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I have often thought that if the insanely communist N. Viets invaded Cambodia because Pol Pot was "too insane" he must have been AWESOMELY "strong and powerful".  Trump would have LOVED him!

Yes, reality TV or celebrity TV in 1975 before its time.  Genocide For A Day ... TV show.  Obama should be shown, with Hillary, sticking a sword up Gaddafi's ass ... again and again ...
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Offline Cavebear

Re: 'Democratic Socialists'
« Reply #10 on: July 21, 2018, 02:09:48 PM »
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Yes, reality TV or celebrity TV in 1975 before its time.  Genocide For A Day ... TV show.  Obama should be shown, with Hillary, sticking a sword up Gaddafi's ass ... again and again ...

Just want to point out that as usula, your response has utterly nothing to do with the post to which you are replying.  Why do you do that when you have nothing relevant to say?  Is it the post-count or the love of seeing your words on the screen?  I've never quite understood that. 
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Offline Baruch

Re: 'Democratic Socialists'
« Reply #11 on: July 21, 2018, 02:37:56 PM »
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Just want to point out that as usula, your response has utterly nothing to do with the post to which you are replying.  Why do you do that when you have nothing relevant to say?  Is it the post-count or the love of seeing your words on the screen?  I've never quite understood that.

Context.  If only direct to original post replies were permitted ... both of us would be banned.  I respond to the latest joke or idiocy by other people.  Target rich environment when you are posting ;-)
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Offline Cavebear

Re: 'Democratic Socialists'
« Reply #12 on: July 25, 2018, 10:43:32 AM »
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Context.  If only direct to original post replies were permitted ... both of us would be banned.  I respond to the latest joke or idiocy by other people.  Target rich environment when you are posting ;-)

You were just a jokester before I arrived.  But I do get your point.  When I was the alternate player at the bottom on the high school golf team, I played the same on the other team.  If he played badly, I played barely less badly.  If he played well, I played just enough better.  Sometimes we all need a challenge...
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Offline pr126

Re: 'Democratic Socialists'
« Reply #13 on: July 28, 2018, 11:17:50 AM »
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"Propaganda works best when those who are being manipulated are confident they are acting on their free will."
 - Joseph Goebbels

Cognitive-dissonance is fighting for women's rights and LBGT rights while defending Islam and Muslims against "Islamophobia".

Offline Baruch

Re: 'Democratic Socialists'
« Reply #14 on: July 28, 2018, 01:07:38 PM »
But but ... it is all because the CIA is all powerful.  But but ... it is because Chavez and Maduro did socialism all wrong (but does that excuse the perpetual basket cases elsewhere in S America)?

Red Cortez was asked ... "where will you find the money to pay for all these social programs?" and she responded "we will figure that out later".  Typical politician.  Yes, I know exactly where you intend to get your funds ... become the ANC of N America.

This is what happens when you put intellectuals (Plato's Guardians) in charge ... aka revolutionary cadre ...

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Plato was lucky he only got off with imprisonment in Syracuse for inciting this kind of shit.  Czar Nicholas, and King Louis before him ... should have genocided their opponents (aka college students) when they had the chance.  This is what the SDS tried to push for in the US in the 1960s.

GB should unleash the Daleks ...
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