Author Topic: When did 'LIFE" begin? (Science in relation with the Biblical description)  (Read 3311 times)

Offline Hakurei Reimu

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All I saw was a funny joke where the cartoon character was actually claiming that HE WAS NOT INTELLIGENT.

Come on man, laugh a little bit.
If that was the intent, it was poorly communicated. This may be a part of your problem.

All humor has to have an element of truth to it. As such, your cartoon only has humor if you take it as ironic creationist stupidity.

Scientists, you see, aren't stupid and realize that they are intelligent. Their experiments in abiogenesis is not to create life and therefore prove life was uncreated, but to investigate the pathways that may have lead to life arising spontaneously and assess the plausibility of such pathways being taken without intelligent intervention.
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This is deeeeep!!!!

I never even thought if it in this way.

All I saw was a funny joke where the cartoon character was actually claiming that HE WAS NOT INTELLIGENT.

Come on man, laugh a little bit.
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Offline SGOS

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That is from "Dr. Horrible's Sing Along Blog," a fun escapade but somewhat of a head scratcher.  I only posted this so I might gain a reputation as a connoisseur of the obscure.  I would recommend watching this film two hours after taking a hit of LSD.

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Same with fine tuning. They want both prongs of the argument when they can only have one. Greedy bastards.
Yeah, and an Omni-max God would not need to fine tune the universal parameters, he'd just magic everything to work just right, without any need for natural laws.
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Offline trdsf

Also, the universe is fine-tuned in the same way that if a branch falls and makes a dime-sized hole in the screen in your window, you'll find insects inside that measure less than 18mm in at least two dimensions.  It's a miracle!  That hole was meant to be there so those bugs could get in, all praise the almighty branch!

Now, if you had a raccoon in there, that might indicate something special.  Or it might just indicate a larger hole that wasn't noticed before.  Or that the screen can be swung open from the bottom.

Fine-tuning claims are nothing more than a cosmological post hoc ergo propter hoc fallacy.  All we can infer from the state of the universe is that it permits regions in which we are possible, no more.  Certainly not necessary.
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Offline Cavebear

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What do you think of my meme on the human mind?

About like thinking a butterfly caterpillar becomes a frog.
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Offline Baruch

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About like thinking a butterfly caterpillar becomes a frog.

What, more parallel universe theory?
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It's funny to read a thread where Baruch sounds like the sane voice of reason! :D

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Offline Baruch

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It's funny to read a thread where Baruch sounds like the sane voice of reason! :D

But I am ;-)
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Offline Cavebear

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Also, the universe is fine-tuned in the same way that if a branch falls and makes a dime-sized hole in the screen in your window, you'll find insects inside that measure less than 18mm in at least two dimensions.  It's a miracle!  That hole was meant to be there so those bugs could get in, all praise the almighty branch!

Now, if you had a raccoon in there, that might indicate something special.  Or it might just indicate a larger hole that wasn't noticed before.  Or that the screen can be swung open from the bottom.

Fine-tuning claims are nothing more than a cosmological post hoc ergo propter hoc fallacy.  All we can infer from the state of the universe is that it permits regions in which we are possible, no more.  Certainly not necessary.

Nice description of the difference between intent and happenstance
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Offline Baruch

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Nice description of the difference between intent and happenstance

That is the boundary, explored in Twilight Zone, between materialism and personalism.
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