Origins of the Universe. (Creation versus science. Do they contradict?)

[aitm]

In some ways I think sci-fi has done us a disservice,

Or I might add that any human activity could possibly create a "rift" in time or alter the fabric of space or other such nonsense. When you understand the breadth of the universe and how truly insignificant we are then we can realize that nothing we could do could possibly alter the course of the universe. To the universe which is so large that it could not tell the difference between our planet and an atom as they are closer to the same size than not to the universe.

[Baruch]

Or I might add that any human activity could possibly create a "rift" in time or alter the fabric of space or other such nonsense. When you understand the breadth of the universe and how truly insignificant we are then we can realize that nothing we could do could possibly alter the course of the universe. To the universe which is so large that it could not tell the difference between our planet and an atom as they are closer to the same size than not to the universe.

The early moderns, with the new astronomy, were quite appalled at the new view of the universe.  Worse than finding the world was a sphere or that the world orbits the Sun and spins on its axis.  This took a little while to sink in ... by Newton's time it was clear how big the solar system was ( later 1838 parallax measurement of stellar distance).

I still think humans are important, even if irritating.  Atoms don't compare to a human being very well.

[Unbeliever]

Or I might add that any human activity could possibly create a "rift" in time or alter the fabric of space or other such nonsense. When you understand the breadth of the universe and how truly insignificant we are then we can realize that nothing we could do could possibly alter the course of the universe. To the universe which is so large that it could not tell the difference between our planet and an atom as they are closer to the same size than not to the universe.

I agree with that, in a general way, but I also think that size doesn't necessarily matter so much. A virus is a tiny thing, and even a million of them take up only a tiny volume, but they can devastate humans who are very much larger than them. So humans may be cosmically small, but we could conceivably have a large effect on the universe. Eventually...

[Cavebear]

I agree with that, in a general way, but I also think that size doesn't necessarily matter so much. A virus is a tiny thing, and even a million of them take up only a tiny volume, but they can devastate humans who are very much larger than them. So humans may be cosmically small, but we could conceivably have a large effect on the universe. Eventually...

The scope of a virus to us is so much larger than us to the universe.  A virus can travel through us easily, but we can't travel through the universe in any meaningful time the same way.

[Baruch]

The scope of a virus to us is so much larger than us to the universe.  A virus can travel through us easily, but we can't travel through the universe in any meaningful time the same way.

The Earth seems to be a part of the colon ;-)

[Unbeliever]

Only the semi-colon...

[Cavebear]

Only the semi-colon...

Oh who needs semicolons anyway; they just confuse people!

[Unbeliever]

We need hemi-demi-semi colons...

[Cavebear]

We need hemi-demi-semi colons...

Great!  I finally sort of learn the keyboard and you want to add stuff...

Wait, isn't hemi-demi-semi the chords in Close Encounters?

[Unbeliever]

Well, it turns out I'm not the first to think of it:

https://imgur.com/gallery/2nOJR

[Gawdzilla Sama]

In some ways I think sci-fi has done us a disservice, in that people now think travelling through the void will be a piece of cake once the right genius comes along, and any place we go out there will have habitable planets. I think neither is the case.

Dr. Sumgai will have it working in no time! How do I know this? Sumgai invents everything!

[Unbeliever]

Well, he'd better hurry, we're going to need it real soon!

[Gawdzilla Sama]

Well, he'd better hurry, we're going to need it real soon!

He's working with Bergenholm right now, getting the inertialess drive working. Seems you have to have the cycles peak here and here instead of there and there.

[Unbeliever]

That's neither here nor there...

[Gawdzilla Sama]

That's neither here nor there...

True, it's both.