Is all leftism basically a derivative of an early Protestant cult?

Started by orcus, July 06, 2018, 12:12:23 AM

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orcus

@Shiranu Basically you realize that the depths of the left's degeneracy has been called out and you're saying that to

1. Deflect and distract

And

2. Weakly disavow sympathy for them.

Shiranu

Actually, I recognize arguing with people like you is like slamming my dick in the door. It's not something I want to do, there is nothing productive about it, and the "head"ache (*badum toss*) is killer.


At the end of the day, in a week or two I will still be here, and you will be in the trash bin. Enjoy your stay while it lasts, don't let me bother you :).
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Hakurei Reimu

So, another perpetuation of the single cause fallacy strikes again. Also, genetic fallacy. Yawn.
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aitm

As a left handed person I take exceptional offense to the denigration of the us lefties by suggesting any social or political cause that one considers "wrong" to be leftists. So fuck you!



There....*washes hands*
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Baruch

Quote from: aitm on July 07, 2018, 05:15:51 AM
As a left handed person I take exceptional offense to the denigration of the us lefties by suggesting any social or political cause that one considers "wrong" to be leftists. So fuck you!



There....*washes hands*

As a right handed person I take exceptional offense to the denigration of the us righties by suggesting any social or political cause that one considers "right" to be rightist.  We are just as "wrong" as the lefties.
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aitm

Quote from: Baruch on July 07, 2018, 08:17:41 AM
We are just as "wrong" as the lefties.

Oh pllluuuuueeaaasseee. Science has PROVEN that lefties are far smarter, superior and probably better looking than righties.....I could toss in bigger genitalia but you may demand proof.
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Baruch

Quote from: aitm on July 07, 2018, 01:16:44 PM
Oh pllluuuuueeaaasseee. Science has PROVEN that lefties are far smarter, superior and probably better looking than righties.....I could toss in bigger genitalia but you may demand proof.

No, let your sex partner demand proof ;-)
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orcus

You still have to wonder why these movements always behave like this. Why there's always a round of witch hunts, followed by military dictatorship.

Baruch

Quote from: orcus on July 08, 2018, 03:18:11 PM
You still have to wonder why these movements always behave like this. Why there's always a round of witch hunts, followed by military dictatorship.

Sheep don't herd themselves, someone has to do the thankless job of being young David, that and killing uppity Philistine giants.

Fascism and Stalinism are both totalitarian, their differences didn't matter to much to the people in the Death Camps or the Gulag.

Yes, the French revolution was saved by Napoleon, their military dictator.  This is why Stalin had to purge and kill Trotsky .. Trotsky was the first head of the Red Army.  In Christian countries, that have revolutions, they are basically anti-Christian for obvious reasons.  Muslim revolutions are anti-Islamic ... which is they the US is helping SA to put down every secular Muslim regime.  Of course traditional politics was fun for the upper classes, it usually is ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ljd2MLlkg6g
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Hakurei Reimu

Quote from: orcus on July 08, 2018, 03:18:11 PM
You still have to wonder why these movements always behave like this. Why there's always a round of witch hunts, followed by military dictatorship.
Because any social change requiring the culture to change that fast and that drastically requires both. When fascists take power, a similar thing happens.
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Baruch

Quote from: Hakurei Reimu on July 08, 2018, 06:25:23 PM
Because any social change requiring the culture to change that fast and that drastically requires both. When fascists take power, a similar thing happens.

And in the end, they all fail.  Revolutions falter and fade, even when "successful".  We still have slavery in the US, for teenage girls.  Today we don't expropriate Native Americans, we go to other continents for that (see Libya).
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orcus

I like Carl Jung's explanation. Basically, mass mobilizations, including mass movements, provide the substrate necessary for the rise of dictators, and ultimately, this necessary condition becomes a sufficient one. That's why it's a suicidal fallacy to create a mass movement for the purpose of preventing/overthrowing dictatorship. It's like giving a man a gun to keep him from robbing you.

Cavebear

Quote from: orcus on July 06, 2018, 09:55:44 PM
@Shiranu Basically you realize that the depths of the left's degeneracy has been called out and you're saying that to

1. Deflect and distract

And

2. Weakly disavow sympathy for them.

The Left is not degenerate.  When the Right tears children from their parents and cages them with no intent of reuniting them, merely to create terror in people arriving here legally seeking asylum, THAT is degenerate.

When the Right destroys health care plans that were created to keep most of the populace insured, preferring to give maximum profit to companies instead, THAT is degenerate. 

When the Right works to put low-wage workers into poverty for company profits of company executives and stock-holders who already have millions, THAT is degeneracy. 

I want poor children to have an escape from poverty through a decent education.  I want responsible parents to be able to support a family in a home by one job.  I want diversity in government.  The government should reflect the populace. 

Ours is a Government of the people, by the people, for the people.  You don't get to define "the people".  They are those who are here.


Atheist born, atheist bred.  And when I die, atheist dead!

Baruch

Lincoln was a hick lawyer from Illinois.  No joy there.
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