Author Topic: Péter Szijjártó (Hungarian foreign minster) vs Emily Maitlis (BBC presenter)  (Read 204 times)

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Its funny, i've read about some of the problems gay people face in a country like Hungary, there not as bad as some other places but they are growing in laws for gay rights, so I feel given a few more decades it would advance some more.

This here however isn't about that. Watching this debate, I can honestly say I'm embarrassed by the cringe-worthy attitude and dismissive nature of the BBCs presenter here, disregarding everything he says with her own biases.

I felt just about everything he said in defense of his country is very on the mark, he is correct, a country has EVERY RIGHT to govern its own laws about how it handles immigration, how many it lets in, how much it wants to keep its country its own identity, and now bowing down to the EUs callous laws.

She was trying to twist what he was saying, while he recognized the threat that an open borders rule would let terrorists in easily, this should be common sense but she didn't even understand that. And accusing it as xenophobia, THEY ARE LETTING LEGAL MIGRANTS INTO THE COUNTRY, they have a strict rule of how many they let in but they are letting them enter.
Also, no class, she won't even let him finish what he's saying without interrupting while he sat there listening to her first. She insults him and his country, and then wants to quickly move the debate along because she doesn't want herself called up on her bullshit. I could slap this bitch.

I think the best part was the look on her face when he's laying it on telling her the facts of his countries rights, she didn't like it one bit XD



Reality is, what he's saying is what every country wants in this, better control, the right to choose how many they can let in, making the control of immigration in their own hands not in the hands of Brussels.
« Last Edit: July 02, 2018, 01:30:57 PM by Munch »

Offline Baruch

The English still think they run the world, and that the BBC runs England.  Of course a British person shouldn't be telling a Hungarian how to live their life!  Makes Brexit ironic ... really, y'all don't want to be telling other countries how to handle immigration, if a big reason for Brexit is to restore English sovereignty.
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The English still think they run the world, and that the BBC runs England.  Of course a British person shouldn't be telling a Hungarian how to live their life!  Makes Brexit ironic ... really, y'all don't want to be telling other countries how to handle immigration, if a big reason for Brexit is to restore English sovereignty.

just remember there is a divide still on that issue, those in the uk who don't want a brexit to occur and those that do.

Offline GrinningYMIR

Eh the EU leaders want it to become a unified state hence squishing any attempts at nations doing their own refugee thing.

I’m not in Europe, but at one point I wanfed to go to the UK badly, but it seems in my life the hate and divide is as strong there in its own ways as it is here.
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Eh the EU leaders want it to become a unified state hence squishing any attempts at nations doing their own refugee thing.

I’m not in Europe, but at one point I wanfed to go to the UK badly, but it seems in my life the hate and divide is as strong there in its own ways as it is here.

the world full of people and people can be shitty whatever walk of life.

Don't believe the postcards and travel agencies.

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just remember there is a divide still on that issue, those in the uk who don't want a brexit to occur and those that do.

Chunnel ... y'all let in the French Fifth Column!
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This here however isn't about that. Watching this debate, I can honestly say I'm embarrassed by the cringe-worthy attitude and dismissive nature of the BBCs presenter here, disregarding everything he says with her own biases.
She was definitely pushing her agenda, rather than interviewing.  We see this type of "interview" quite frequently in the US too.  It's interesting to watch, but not great journalism.

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I felt just about everything he said in defense of his country is very on the mark, he is correct, a country has EVERY RIGHT to govern its own laws about how it handles immigration, how many it lets in, how much it wants to keep its country its own identity, and now bowing down to the EUs callous laws.
When the EU was first proposed, I wondered how it would affect sovereignty of individual countries.  I also wondered if financially mismanaged countries like Greece would try to take advantage and use other EU countries to fund it's unsustainable financial ideology.  Loss of sovereignty was the smaller concern of mine because I did not realized forced compliance with other countries goals would play such a big part.

But at the time, no one that I talked to imagined such problems, and everyone anticipated a stronger Europe working its way to a bigger role in world leadership.  I just figured I didn't understand, which indeed is often true, but now I'm wondering if it was everyone else that didn't understand.  I like the idea of strengthening through consolidation, but we usually anticipate the positive goals, without considering how it can tear countries apart.  Or in this case, to create bad blood between countries that get along.

Europe the continent is becoming more like US the country in divisiveness.  It's not a good direction to go, but I don't know how to avoid it.

Offline Baruch

German chauvinist mercantilism, French parasitism on German prosperity is the marriage made in Vegas (they got drunk, had sex, got married).  Europe was just hoping to make it big on the slot machines of economics ... so that nobody would notice the croupier taking a cut off the top.  Germany wanted Greece to come in and the other southern countries, because that is where they all take their month long August vacations!  With a bankrupt Greece, the German hope is to get cheap vacation homes on Greek islands ... all the Ottos can live like Onassis.  With a  bankrupt Spain, the English hope is to get cheap vacation homes on the Costa Del Sol.  And this did happen, until 2010 (almost a generation after the consolidation).  With socialism, everyone was going to get rich out everyone else (including China, Russia and the US).  The US providing the primary currency, particularly thru QE since 2008, was the flood that lifts all boats.  Trump may be cutting the drunks off from the bar ... including China.  But it was Bush and Obama, making war in the ME, CIA pushing Arab Spring and the revolution and war in Ukraine and Georgia that has created the refugee crisis ... facilitated by Soros (who is making money off of each refugee).  Times change, before 2008 even I was looking into a vacation home in Europe ... though I am no Merkel, Macron or May (M cubed).

Meanwhile, young third world boys, seeing us play GTA ... think ... that's the life!  Humans have a deep desire for dystopias.
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