Author Topic: Theist Morality is Subjective  (Read 3766 times)

Offline Baruch

Re: Theist Morality is Subjective
« Reply #15 on: October 04, 2018, 12:39:25 PM »
Modal logic refers to what is possible in other universes. You were the one who brought it up first, not me.


True and irrelevant to my points.

Not exactly ie Modal Logic.  But you don't have to take up my original suggestion, in that context.  We aren't a slave web site, yet.
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Offline Cavebear

Re: Theist Morality is Subjective
« Reply #16 on: October 04, 2018, 02:43:19 PM »
After you explain Modal Logic to me (I am having trouble there) .. maybe we can talk about this.  Simple predicate logic won't help ...

All Athenians are aardvarks
Socrates is an Athenian
Therefore ... Socrates is an aardvark.

Perfect logic, but bad first premise, because it violates empirical reality.

Forgive me for this...

How do you know he wasn't an aardvark?  Were you there?
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Offline Baruch

Re: Theist Morality is Subjective
« Reply #17 on: October 05, 2018, 12:23:55 PM »
Forgive me for this...

How do you know he wasn't an aardvark?  Were you there?

Good point.  If anyone claims to know anything, you know it is BS.  Then the correctness of the syllogism doesn't matter.
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Offline Cavebear

Re: Theist Morality is Subjective
« Reply #18 on: October 07, 2018, 06:07:58 AM »
Good point.  If anyone claims to know anything, you know it is BS.  Then the correctness of the syllogism doesn't matter.

No, that's the opposite of my point.  There is evidence to "know" some things.  Science depends on evidence, faith does not.
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Offline Baruch

Re: Theist Morality is Subjective
« Reply #19 on: October 07, 2018, 01:27:22 PM »
No, that's the opposite of my point.  There is evidence to "know" some things.  Science depends on evidence, faith does not.

To know something scientifically, is conditional to the theory being used, and the skillfulness of instrumental use.  In common parlance, "to know" means many things ... even "to know a woman".

Because I seem to know you well, I have "trust" that you are telling the truth, when you describe your government service.  In that case I have "faith" in you (that you are trustworthy).
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Offline Cavebear

Re: Theist Morality is Subjective
« Reply #20 on: October 07, 2018, 02:44:22 PM »
To know something scientifically, is conditional to the theory being used, and the skillfulness of instrumental use.  In common parlance, "to know" means many things ... even "to know a woman".

Because I seem to know you well, I have "trust" that you are telling the truth, when you describe your government service.  In that case I have "faith" in you (that you are trustworthy).

This day of Kavanaugh is a bad one to use "know".  In any sense...  Lets give those puns a sad rest...
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Offline Baruch

Re: Theist Morality is Subjective
« Reply #21 on: October 07, 2018, 02:46:32 PM »
This day of Kavanaugh is a bad one to use "know".  In any sense...  Lets give those puns a sad rest...

Only men misbehave?  I was thinking of Adam and Eve actually.  Eve started it first!
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Offline Cavebear

Re: Theist Morality is Subjective
« Reply #22 on: October 07, 2018, 03:31:15 PM »
Only men misbehave?  I was thinking of Adam and Eve actually.  Eve started it first!

I was referring to "know" a woman as a euphemism.  Will you drop this?
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Offline Baruch

Re: Theist Morality is Subjective
« Reply #23 on: October 07, 2018, 07:41:34 PM »
I was referring to "know" a woman as a euphemism.  Will you drop this?

So was I.  Are you doing OK tonight?
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Azee’ ła’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
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Offline Cavebear

Re: Theist Morality is Subjective
« Reply #24 on: October 10, 2018, 04:04:19 AM »
So was I.  Are you doing OK tonight?

No actually.  The computer is giving me fits failing to send comments to blogs I try to visit.  8 of 10 comments I tried to post failed to get through.  I am a more than a BIT annoyed. 
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Offline Baruch

Re: Theist Morality is Subjective
« Reply #25 on: October 10, 2018, 05:18:00 AM »
No actually.  The computer is giving me fits failing to send comments to blogs I try to visit.  8 of 10 comments I tried to post failed to get through.  I am a more than a BIT annoyed.

OK.  But I meant you, not your computer.  Not now, but 3 days ago.
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Offline Cavebear

Re: Theist Morality is Subjective
« Reply #26 on: October 10, 2018, 01:50:47 PM »
OK.  But I meant you, not your computer.  Not now, but 3 days ago.

I am my computer.  WYSIWYG
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Offline Baruch

Re: Theist Morality is Subjective
« Reply #27 on: October 10, 2018, 08:29:51 PM »
I am my computer.  WYSIWYG

Bear-ly Bot.
Ha’át’íísh baa naniná?
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Offline Cavebear

Re: Theist Morality is Subjective
« Reply #28 on: October 14, 2018, 09:38:59 AM »
Bear-ly Bot.

Get beyond the jokes...
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Offline Baruch

Re: Theist Morality is Subjective
« Reply #29 on: October 14, 2018, 09:48:36 AM »
Get beyond the jokes...

Life is a joke.  Beyond life is ... death.  Want to be dead already?
Ha’át’íísh baa naniná?
Azee’ ła’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
What are you doing?
Are you taking any medications?
Don't do that.