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Offline Cavebear

Re: United States Ranked 10th Worse Nation For Women
« Reply #30 on: July 02, 2018, 02:48:10 AM »
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Opressors = White Male
Oppressed = Every one else.

No, idiot males white or not, abusing women.  And thinking they are right to do it.
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Offline pr126

Re: United States Ranked 10th Worse Nation For Women
« Reply #31 on: July 02, 2018, 04:20:36 AM »
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No, idiot males white or not, abusing women.  And thinking they are right to do it.
But in the feminist world, only white males are doing it.
Ask any feminist if Muslim males are abusing their women.
All you hear is crickets. Or put on a hijab in solidarity.

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Online Shiranu

Re: United States Ranked 10th Worse Nation For Women
« Reply #32 on: July 02, 2018, 04:39:29 AM »
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But in the feminist world, only white males are doing it.

Fuck on out of here with that bullshit.

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Ask any feminist if Muslim males are abusing their women.

They can. Just like any other male in any other society.

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All you hear is crickets.

Might want to get the batteries on your hearing aids replaced then.
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Offline Cavebear

Re: United States Ranked 10th Worse Nation For Women
« Reply #33 on: July 02, 2018, 04:58:08 AM »
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But in the feminist world, only white males are doing it.
Ask any feminist if Muslim males are abusing their women.
All you hear is crickets. Or put on a hijab in solidarity.

Oh PR...  C'mon man.  You can't believe that.  Only lately did Saudi women get even the right to drive a CAR!  Or attend college.  What would you think about that for yourself?  Are you daft?  Structural and forcible denial of basic rights of movement and education IS abuse, plain and simple.
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Offline pr126

Re: United States Ranked 10th Worse Nation For Women
« Reply #34 on: July 02, 2018, 06:15:27 AM »
Somehow I don’t think that American feminist have influenced SA King to let their women drive.

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Offline Cavebear

Re: United States Ranked 10th Worse Nation For Women
« Reply #35 on: July 02, 2018, 06:19:24 AM »
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Somehow I don’t think that American feminist have influenced SA King to let their women drive.

You might be surprised.  The whole world started watching Saudi Arabia and the men said "OK Fine, let the women drive a car".  Its the least small step, but a first one.
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Offline Baruch

Re: United States Ranked 10th Worse Nation For Women
« Reply #36 on: July 02, 2018, 06:59:35 AM »
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I suspect things are getting better for women in the US today.  There is discussion, there are women speaking up, there are women running for political office, etc. Women are speaking up against harassment and winning approval for doing so.  Harassing and more evil individual men are getting punished for their actions.  How is that worse?

Don't contradict a woman when she is speaking.  Better yet, don't speak at all.

Some men have, and many men yet should ... get what is coming to them.

But the evil women do is simply different than the usual male kind.  It isn't better evil.

Things have changed over 50 years ... some things better, some things worse.  Progress or regress is in the eyes of the beholder.  To some, all women in America are in Pink FEMA camps, getting groped by Trump.
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Offline Baruch

Re: United States Ranked 10th Worse Nation For Women
« Reply #37 on: July 02, 2018, 07:05:51 AM »
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Oh PR...  C'mon man.  You can't believe that.  Only lately did Saudi women get even the right to drive a CAR!  Or attend college.  What would you think about that for yourself?  Are you daft?  Structural and forcible denial of basic rights of movement and education IS abuse, plain and simple.

Saudi Arabia, the gift that keeps on giving ... oil and terrorists.  Therefore all Christian or Jewish men are evil ;-)

And yes, in our culture women abuse occurs every day.  But we are so much superior to the rag-heads, right?

How about more ad hominems from Shiranu, or bigotry from you?  Yes, every place on the planet should be like the gay district in San Francisco.
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Offline Baruch

Re: United States Ranked 10th Worse Nation For Women
« Reply #38 on: July 02, 2018, 07:07:52 AM »
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oh dear, well I guess I'm a terrible person then.

Just for the record, I don't give a shit about anyones gender when they're talking to me, its only if they have something worth listening to.

that's real equality.

You just aren't Woke enough ;-)
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Offline Mermaid

Re: United States Ranked 10th Worse Nation For Women
« Reply #39 on: July 02, 2018, 08:49:33 PM »
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I suspect things are getting better for women in the US today.  There is discussion, there are women speaking up, there are women running for political office, etc. Women are speaking up against harassment and winning approval for doing so.  Harassing and more evil individual men are getting punished for their actions.  How is that worse?
It's a process for sure. Are things better for us than they were 40 years ago? I'd say so. But right now, at this time of upheaval, there are a lot of angry, marginalized, low-information men like PR (and, sadly, plenty of women) who are getting louder and louder. They vote. The American people have somehow managed to get that pig into the white house. And we have a senate who has stolen a SCOTUS appointee from the last administration and a president who is about to appoint another, and who is not shy about making sure we know he intends to choose one who wants to work to overturn RvW. And we have an fucking uber-Christian, moronic VP who has dedicated his life to subjugating women and taking away our rights to control our own lives and bodies among other putrid agendas.

Abortion and access to reproductive and women's healthcare are no small thing, but they are just one topic that's now up for yet more debate. Why are we even TALKING about this? It's 2018.

Oh do I sound angry? A little. I am fucking angry.
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Offline Mermaid

Re: United States Ranked 10th Worse Nation For Women
« Reply #40 on: July 02, 2018, 08:55:06 PM »
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But in the feminist world, only white males are doing it.
Ask any feminist if Muslim males are abusing their women.
All you hear is crickets. Or put on a hijab in solidarity.


I feel like you are making things up in your head and getting angry about it, and are impermeable to new information.

For the record, I am a feminist, do I count? This is bullshit. And I feel the exact same way about most other religions. Much of Christianity sucks, Orthodox Judaism sucks, Islam sucks, etc.


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Offline Munch

Re: United States Ranked 10th Worse Nation For Women
« Reply #41 on: July 02, 2018, 09:12:24 PM »
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For the record, I am a feminist,

I never would have guessed.

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It's a process for sure. Are things better for us than they were 40 years ago? I'd say so. But right now, at this time of upheaval, there are a lot of angry, marginalized, low-information men like PR (and, sadly, plenty of women) who are getting louder and louder. They vote. The American people have somehow managed to get that pig into the white house. And we have a senate who has stolen a SCOTUS appointee from the last administration and a president who is about to appoint another, and who is not shy about making sure we know he intends to choose one who wants to work to overturn RvW. And we have an fucking uber-Christian, moronic VP who has dedicated his life to subjugating women and taking away our rights to control our own lives and bodies among other putrid agendas.

Abortion and access to reproductive and women's healthcare are no small thing, but they are just one topic that's now up for yet more debate. Why are we even TALKING about this? It's 2018.

Oh do I sound angry? A little. I am fucking angry.

And, you honestly have no reason to be. I'm guessing you weren't even alive 40 years ago, but were you are in the world and in this time in history, your in a pretty decent part of it, you have so dam much to be thankful for, but instead you scrap the barrel to try and find anything to get angry at instead of thinking of the good shit you do have.

Fact you'd sooner look for things to get angry at instead of thinking how good you actually have it speaks more about yourself then the system around you.

Maybe I should be this angry, I'm a 37 year old gay man living in the uk currently unemployed lead by a conservative government. But I would sooner count all the good shit both in the land around me and what I have, and I'd way sooner be where I am right now then anywhere in the past and a lot of other countries that don't have it this relaxed.

My only concern day to day is finding a stable job. I don't have to fear about medication for my medical condition, I don't have to worry about having a roof over my head due to support, I don't have to worry about the power going out or being arrested for what I am, I don't have to worry about going hungry, I don't have to worry about catching a disease due to free health checkups, and I can sit here on my pc typing all this with a cup of tea and honey I brought at the local tescos. I can even get training and support to break into newer career paths which I've been doing, for free.

If you live in a country where you have so much shit supporting you and making life relaxed, to the point you need to find something to be aggravated over instead of being thankful for the stuff you do have, then your not seeing the wood for the trees.

Re: United States Ranked 10th Worse Nation For Women
« Reply #42 on: July 02, 2018, 09:25:45 PM »
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It's a process for sure. Are things better for us than they were 40 years ago? I'd say so. But right now, at this time of upheaval, there are a lot of angry, marginalized, low-information men like PR (and, sadly, plenty of women) who are getting louder and louder. They vote. The American people have somehow managed to get that pig into the white house. And we have a senate who has stolen a SCOTUS appointee from the last administration and a president who is about to appoint another, and who is not shy about making sure we know he intends to choose one who wants to work to overturn RvW. And we have an fucking uber-Christian, moronic VP who has dedicated his life to subjugating women and taking away our rights to control our own lives and bodies among other putrid agendas.

Abortion and access to reproductive and women's healthcare are no small thing, but they are just one topic that's now up for yet more debate. Why are we even TALKING about this? It's 2018.

Oh do I sound angry? A little. I am fucking angry.
I hear you.  And I am very angry, as well.  I am not a woman, but my wife is and so is my daughter.  I live seeing my wife being treated differently when she steps out of her traditional bounds.  We live in a very good-old-boy area and one that is heavily christian.  Women are expected to keep to their place.  My daughter lives in the Bay Area, yet still is exposed to dual expectations in their social world and work place.  My niece is also a homosexual (and a woman), and so she has traditional and non-traditional stuff to deal with.  I am not female nor homosexual and therefore cannot experience first hand what they do.  But I can, and do, listen. 
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Offline Baruch

Re: United States Ranked 10th Worse Nation For Women
« Reply #43 on: July 03, 2018, 06:29:18 AM »
Utopians are idealists, but also revolutionaries who want 100% of what they want, right now.  Mental cases.  But then we all are.
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Offline Mermaid

Re: United States Ranked 10th Worse Nation For Women
« Reply #44 on: July 03, 2018, 08:10:24 AM »
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I never would have guessed.
This is apparently some sort of insult. Good for you!

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And, you honestly have no reason to be. I'm guessing you weren't even alive 40 years ago, but were you are in the world and in this time in history, your in a pretty decent part of it, you have so dam much to be thankful for, but instead you scrap the barrel to try and find anything to get angry at instead of thinking of the good shit you do have.
I am 55. Not sure why you are trying to verbally pat me on the head to tell me I am naive, but whatever.

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Fact you'd sooner look for things to get angry at instead of thinking how good you actually have it speaks more about yourself then the system around you.

Maybe I should be this angry, I'm a 37 year old gay man living in the uk currently unemployed lead by a conservative government. But I would sooner count all the good shit both in the land around me and what I have, and I'd way sooner be where I am right now then anywhere in the past and a lot of other countries that don't have it this relaxed.

My only concern day to day is finding a stable job. I don't have to fear about medication for my medical condition, I don't have to worry about having a roof over my head due to support, I don't have to worry about the power going out or being arrested for what I am, I don't have to worry about going hungry, I don't have to worry about catching a disease due to free health checkups, and I can sit here on my pc typing all this with a cup of tea and honey I brought at the local tescos. I can even get training and support to break into newer career paths which I've been doing, for free.

If you live in a country where you have so much shit supporting you and making life relaxed, to the point you need to find something to be aggravated over instead of being thankful for the stuff you do have, then your not seeing the wood for the trees.

First of all, you don't even live in my country.
I am angry that women's rights to our own bodily autonomy are constantly under fire because of the religious groups in this country. Why wouldn't this make me angry?
I don't fit whatever model of feminist you have in your head, I guess. Shrug.
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