600 Women Arrested at Peaceful Protest Against Child Separation Policy

Started by Shiranu, June 29, 2018, 07:42:11 PM

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Shiranu

QuoteYou are allowing Illegal immigrants into your country that flee their own because of their socialist governments they them self voted for.

I'm going to stop you there, because the overwhelming majority of immigrants to the United States do not come from socialist countries.

Ranked by number of immigrants...

1. Mexico is where the majority of our immigrants come from, and it is not a socialist country.
2. India is not a socialist country.
3. China is semi-socialist, but they didn't vote to be so... especially when you take in immigrants fleeing from places like Hong Kong, which has been traditionally anti-China into account.
4. Philippines, not socialists.
5. El Salvador, not socialists.
6. Vietnam, one of the few proper "socialist" (I believe you use that word meaning Communist) states, though they have heavily relaxed their communist views over the last 30 or so years.
7. Cuba, same as above.
8+... Dominican Republic, South Korea, Canada, Jamaica, Germany, Colombia, etc. etc. etc. ...



When you are dead wrong from your opening argument, give me a reason why I should read the rest of the post. I am more than happy to admit that you may make good points later on, but when you are blatantly lying from your first argument, and scrolling up and looking at how you imply the majority of immigrants are drug smugglers you continue to lie and promote bigotry, my gut reaction is your entire post is going to be a load of shit.
"A little science distances you from God, but a lot of science brings you nearer to Him." - Louis Pasteur

Baruch

A few clarifications ...

"India is not a socialist country" ... not socialist under Modi, but it was under Jawaharlal Nehru.  So are you upset that India is moving away from Russia and nearer the US?  They won't get to close to the US ... we are a wholey owns subsidiary of GB.  They also can't get too close to China, since they are rivals and not too close to Russia, since Russia is close to China.  As usual, India doesn't have a latrine to piss in ;-(

Is China no longer socialist?  Same deal, especially now that Xi has made himself Emperor.  Puts him on the same level as Kim.

Vietnam is a subsidiary of China Inc .. like Mexico is for the US, it is a cheap place for China to get stuff made that is cheaper than even China is.

Cuba is still socialist, as is Venezuela and N Korea.  If the Trump plan goes thru, with the backing of Chairman Kim and Emperor Xi ... N Korea will be like Vietnam soon, a two-bit extension of China.  Venezuela first, and Cuba second (no oil) are going into the dust-bin of failed states.

You must get all your news from some Havana newspaper ;-))
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Shiranu

QuoteIs China no longer socialist?  Same deal, especially now that Xi has made himself Emperor.  Puts him on the same level as Kim.

They have incorporated large amounts of capitalism into their economic system.

QuoteCuba is still socialist, as is Venezuela and N Korea. 

In the grand scheme of things, we only receive a fraction of our immigrants from those three nations (and for two of those at least, it's mostly people who weren't in favour of the communist regimes who left).

The overwhelming majority of our immigrants come from non-communist nations... in the top 30 countries by immigration, it's about 33 million non-communists to 7 million people fleeing communist countries. So again... it is simply a dead wrong statement to imply that socialism is somehow the reason for our immigration numbers.

If you look at the numbers, the three most common government traits of the countries being fled are high corruption, highly conservative and highly authoritarian... three things the United States is getting progressively more and more.

I think immigrants can actually teach us a great deal about what to avoid as a nation, but we have to cut through all this right-wing bullshit to even get to that knowledge (and high corruption and high authoritarianism is something that the left is just as guilty of, so it's not a partisan lesson to be afraid of).


The right insists on making the conversation all about their pet issues, and to a lesser extent the left has done the same in retaliation, that there is no longer any room to actually learn anything... only shout back and forth that the other side is wrong. But when one side is drowning out the conversation because of xenophobia and fear... there is simply no way to reason with them.


Pr, Munch, Gilgamesh are perfect examples of this even within our little sample size... even on topics discussing centralist issues, the only contribution they have is about how "the boogieman" is coming to destroy us all (be it Muslims, socialists, "SJWs", whatever). This contributes nothing to the conversation at best, and at worst they insist that people shouldn't be allowed to talk about issues effecting their society because other people have it worse under their boogieman so how dare you want to make things better.
"A little science distances you from God, but a lot of science brings you nearer to Him." - Louis Pasteur

Shiranu

QuoteCome and live in a communist socialist country with open borders and experience the wholesale rape of the riches of the country.

Oh I fucking lawl.

Capitalist countries have never raped the riches of a country, amirite?
"A little science distances you from God, but a lot of science brings you nearer to Him." - Louis Pasteur

Mousetrap

Quote from: Hakurei Reimu on July 04, 2018, 12:04:04 PM

As to whether Clinton was corrupt, that's arguable. But from what I'd seen before the election, Clinton couldn't hold a candle to Trump. Trump is the businessman that Clinton would have been in the pocket of. Trump even boasted that he could make money being president. That doesn't sound like a person who has America's best interests in heart.
I see that Clinton is again under investigation. Did you see how corrupt the FBI was?
They all covered up for Clinton, and falsely accused Trump.
Clinton sold Uranium mines to Russia, paid Bill 500K to hold a speech in Russia, and she used money that was not hers to use!
She lied to Congress, and should be jailed.
https://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/as-investigations-of-misconduct-mount-can-hillary-clinton-avoid-jail/

Quote from: Hakurei ReimuThat's because you never developed a proper industry and depended on the export of diamonds to uphold your lifestyle, all the while repressing black natives. Your country was an economic basket case since day one, and now the chickens have come home to roost.
Just as you dont care for someone not from your country, I dont care for your remark.
You really do not know a thing about my nation.
We never owned any mines.
Anglo American and Oppenheimer did.
If the previous government did not introduce taxation on these mines, Britain and America would still have profited from all the Gold and Diamonds.
You dont have a clue about my country's history, and it was due to socialists like you that my people are facing genocide.
But rest assured, your liberal communist liking will catch up with you too as it did in England when those jellyfish socialists could not believe their eyes when they realized Islam took their capital city and more.

Quote from: Hakurei Reimu
PFFT! All false. My country has been in a trade deficit since practically the day I was born four decades ago! Obama was a Christian, and no mosque has ever been built at the White House.
A dedicated prayer room with carpeting and a nicshe facing Mecca is a mosque. Dont fool yourself.

Quote from: Hakurei ReimuSomeone who swallows easily-debunked lies is in no position to say that to me.
Voting for an obvious buffoon and con-man is defamation enough in my book. The notion that someone who ran his businesses into the ground six times will suddenly shape up and do better in the highest office in the land is hilarious.
And you think a corrupt liar like Hilarious Clinton might be....
Quote from: Hakurei ReimuEmpty posturing. The rule of law is grounded upon due process. If the mere accusation of being an illegal immigrant, a murderer, a corrupt person, or a hooligan is enough to grant you summary sentencing, then you de facto have no rights at all. My country was founded upon the principle that the government can't take away my liberty, my life, or my property without due process of law. But that works only because everyone benefits from that principle, because immigrants, murderers, and the corrupt aren't helpfully labeled so across their foreheads.
And these women were so peace full and did nothing wrong.The police was so bad they arrested them innocently.
Pal... take it from me. If the USA do not strengthen law and order on all levels, you will not have any freedom.

You give a poem by Martin Niemöller:

Dont you see how brainwashed you are now?
You realy think the Republicans are Natzi!
This is utmost foolishness to say the least!
You are a Marxist and anarchist!
Evolution, the religion whereby one believes your children more human, and your parents more ape, than you!

The Human Mind, if it has nothing to do with Evolution...What an incredible entity...
If it does, what a waste!

Atheism, what a wonderful religion, where one believe to believe is erroneous.

Mousetrap

Oh, by the way...
How the hell does the democrats blame the deficit on Trump their own politicians are to be blamed for.
I see Trump is fixing all their dung.
Millions of jobs created, thousands of factories that was closed because of father Christmas Obama's love for Muslim countries, and Chinese cheapskate counterfeits. Low unemployment, War on drugs. Taxation on Chinese imports, and restrictions on Steel and Aluminium, and on and on and on...

All the liberal presidents collectively could not do in 8 years what Trump did in 6 months.
People, support the man and critisize constructively.
But stay strong and remove these rubbish that wants to sink America.
Evolution, the religion whereby one believes your children more human, and your parents more ape, than you!

The Human Mind, if it has nothing to do with Evolution...What an incredible entity...
If it does, what a waste!

Atheism, what a wonderful religion, where one believe to believe is erroneous.

Mousetrap

I do not know if our leftist Reimu realize that he is also contributing to the Fake News to sink the USA.
It was not 600 WOMEN that was arrested, but 600 PEOPLE!
Huge difference indeed.
Now the police arrested 600 Men and Women, and not just the weaker sex!

Secondly, I see he does not say anything about why they were arrested.
But perhaps we should clarify.
Quote from: Democratic lawmaker Pramila Jayapalsaid she was among those arrested "who took over the center of the Hart Senate Building protesting the inhumane and cruel zero-tolerance policy of Donald Trump and this administration."
Goodness gracious Reimu,
They were acting as terrorists!
Do you think it is lawfull to take over a Government building and to create chaos?
This is what low IQ'd barbaric fools does in 3rd world countries!
No, no, no...Americans should be an example to the rest of the world.
Shame on you and your leftist Marxist socialist anarchists.

And those people does not even know ICE are not the unit that separates the children from their illegal immigrant parents who participates in drug smuggling, human trafficking etc.

No, guys, These protesters definitely does not know sh@$ from Sweet.
Evolution, the religion whereby one believes your children more human, and your parents more ape, than you!

The Human Mind, if it has nothing to do with Evolution...What an incredible entity...
If it does, what a waste!

Atheism, what a wonderful religion, where one believe to believe is erroneous.

Mousetrap

Quote from: Shiranu on July 04, 2018, 05:09:37 PM
Oh I fucking lawl.
Capitalist countries have never raped the riches of a country, amirite?
At least they never murdered 25 Million like Stalin!
they never created famine like Pol Pot.

nice to live in a country where you have freedom AND FOOD AND SHELTER AND LAW AND ORDER.
for once in your life, appreciate what your parents created for you.
Evolution, the religion whereby one believes your children more human, and your parents more ape, than you!

The Human Mind, if it has nothing to do with Evolution...What an incredible entity...
If it does, what a waste!

Atheism, what a wonderful religion, where one believe to believe is erroneous.

Baruch

Quote from: Mousetrap on July 06, 2018, 07:02:42 AM
At least they never murdered 25 Million like Stalin!
they never created famine like Pol Pot.

nice to live in a country where you have freedom AND FOOD AND SHELTER AND LAW AND ORDER.
for once in your life, appreciate what your parents created for you.

Ahem ... Pol Pot killed a few million people, with hoes.  Kim Jong Un and his father and grandfather killed a few million by famine.  Mao did it first though.

Stalin worked hard ... he was a workaholic who signed every execution order!
Ha’át’íísh baa naniná?
Azee’ Å,a’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
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Are you taking any medications?
Don't do that.

Mousetrap

Whaaaaaat!
Look who is behind this terrorist attack on the senate!

Quote from: Linda Sarsoor
https://www.vox.com/2018/6/28/17515160/womens-march-protests-family-separation-600-arrested
The Women’s March, in planning this event, had asked women if they were ready to risk arrest. “Civil disobedience is a strategic intentional tactic,” Linda Sarsour, co-chair of the Women’s March, said last week. “We have to be helpful to the people we claim to fight with and for.”
Guys, if this is who you admire for Human rights, youd better have your heads read!
She is the last person to talk about border control and human rights.
She is a devout supporter of ISSIS!
and she just never stop lying too.
No guys, you better get these foul people sorted out.
They are parasites sucking every bit of decency out of the civilized West to create chaos and destruction to follow it up with Shariah law.
Dear Lord, how far did these daemons not infiltrate the only hope for the World.
The USA.
Evolution, the religion whereby one believes your children more human, and your parents more ape, than you!

The Human Mind, if it has nothing to do with Evolution...What an incredible entity...
If it does, what a waste!

Atheism, what a wonderful religion, where one believe to believe is erroneous.

Shiranu

"A little science distances you from God, but a lot of science brings you nearer to Him." - Louis Pasteur

Hijiri Byakuren

Quote from: Mousetrap on July 06, 2018, 07:02:42 AM
At least they never murdered 25 Million like Stalin!
75 million Native Americans would like a word with you.
Speak when you have something to say, not when you have to say something.

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Shiranu

Quote from: Hijiri Byakuren on July 06, 2018, 11:00:33 AM
75 million Native Americans would like a word with you.

Let's not even get into the slave trade, which is the epitome of capitalism. Or the Dutch East India company. Or...
"A little science distances you from God, but a lot of science brings you nearer to Him." - Louis Pasteur

Baruch

Quote from: Hijiri Byakuren on July 06, 2018, 11:00:33 AM
75 million Native Americans would like a word with you.

Yep, George Washington signed each execution order, personally ;-)  He was our Stalin ;-))
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Don't do that.

Baruch

Quote from: Shiranu on July 06, 2018, 11:04:59 AM
Let's not even get into the slave trade, which is the epitome of capitalism. Or the Dutch East India company. Or...

The Roman version was much better, any captive in war = slave ... no matter your skin color.  That is how so many Jewish genes got into Europe ... thru captive Jewish women.  The men didn't make it as far as the boat (Ben Hur is inaccurate).
Ha’át’íísh baa naniná?
Azee’ Å,a’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
What are you doing?
Are you taking any medications?
Don't do that.