The so called conscience of the Left ... for the children

[Baruch]

Everyone is living in their own fake reality.  And they convert all they hear and read into fake news (to fit their own self worth).

This is psychology, this is your psychology on politics ...

[pr126]

[pr126]

Many posters here saying that the USA is the worst country, racist, warmongering and a shithole.

Yet, millions are desperate to get into the USA by any means they can.

Why is that?   

[Baruch]

Many posters here saying that the USA is the worst country, racist, warmongering and a shithole.

Yet, millions are desperate to get into the USA by any means they can.

Why is that?

They forget that ...

Marx is God and Lenin is his prophet ... this is why the revolutionary cadre (Lenin et al) are necessary because the proletariat don't know what is good for them ;-))

Seen this all before, in the 1960s ... but the running dogs of socialism have gotten desperate because their fantasies have fallen on hard times.

Idealists are delusional.  They don't see things as they are, but as they want them to be (in their Tide pods induced psychosis).  Yes, when you get past the Big Transition (15-25 years old), finally get past extended puberty ... you realize that being an adult involves lots of shit.  No more Teletubbies for you, big babies!

[Shiranu]

Many posters here saying that the USA is the worst country, racist, warmongering and a shithole.

Name one.

Yet, millions are desperate to get into the USA by any means they can.

Not as desperate as those trying to get into Canada though; when put into perspective, when put into immigrants per capita (for lack of a better way of wording that), Canada has nearly 2.5 times the rate of immigration of America... and about half of our immigrants come from Latin America, so they are having to go through us to get there.


Not that that really means jack shit, and there are about a million other reasons why immigration patterns are what they are, but if you want to argue that people are choosing the best country then your argument already falls flat.


Also, how many times do we have to go over this with you that just because one place is bad, doesn't mean other's cant be worse... and that doesn't somehow mean we should just settle for bad? If your house was on fire, and you called 9/11, would you be content if they told you, "Woah, man, stop your bitching... at least you have a house to catch on fire!"?

[pr126]

Well, if this Agenda 2030 implemented, then the left's dream will come true.
Can you imagine the whole planet as one big Venezuela?

Here is the manual for the Brave New World. Enjoy.

https://sustainabledevelopment.un.org/post2015/transformingourworld

[Shiranu]

Name one person here who wants that.

[Shiranu]

Also, holy fuck why the fuck am I having to talk about the left in a thread about children being separated from their parents and held in cages?

How the fuck do you see that situation and think you need to make it all about how the people who are against that are really the ones who suck?

[pr126]

Who would want it?!

Why, doesn't it sound wonderful?

Look at goal 1.

End poverty in all its forms everywhere.  Wouldn't you want that to happen?

Goal 2.
End hunger, achieve food security and improved nutrition and promote sustainable agriculture
What a noble goal. Wouldn't you want that to happen?

Every one of these goals is mankind's dream. Utopia in the making. How could you not agree?

Which one of these 17 goals is bad for you?

Goal 1. End poverty in all its forms everywhere
Goal 2. End hunger, achieve food security and improved nutrition and promote sustainable agriculture
Goal 3. Ensure healthy lives and promote well-being for all at all ages
Goal 4. Ensure inclusive and equitable quality education and promote lifelong learning opportunities for all
Goal 5. Achieve gender equality and empower all women and girls
Goal 6. Ensure availability and sustainable management of water and sanitation for all
Goal 7. Ensure access to affordable, reliable, sustainable and modern energy for all
Goal 8. Promote sustained, inclusive and sustainable economic growth, full and productive employment and decent work for all
Goal 9. Build resilient infrastructure, promote inclusive and sustainable industrialization and foster innovation
Goal 10. Reduce inequality within and among countries
Goal 11. Make cities and human settlements inclusive, safe, resilient and sustainable
Goal 12. Ensure sustainable consumption and production patterns
Goal 13. Take urgent action to combat climate change and its impacts*
Goal 14. Conserve and sustainably use the oceans, seas and marine resources for sustainable development
Goal 15. Protect, restore and promote sustainable use of terrestrial ecosystems, sustainably manage forests, combat desertification, and halt and reverse land degradation and halt biodiversity loss
Goal 16. Promote peaceful and inclusive societies for sustainable development, provide access to justice for all and build effective, accountable and inclusive institutions at all levels
Goal 17. Strengthen the means of implementation and revitalize the global partnership for sustainable development

[Draconic Aiur]

Many posters here saying that the USA is the worst country, racist, warmongering and a shithole.

Yet, millions are desperate to get into the USA by any means they can.

Why is that?   

Because it's better than the hellhole they live in

[Baruch]

Also, holy fuck why the fuck am I having to talk about the left in a thread about children being separated from their parents and held in cages?

How the fuck do you see that situation and think you need to make it all about how the people who are against that are really the ones who suck?

So do you support human trafficking in general, and children in particular?  What is your solution to human trafficking ... a known felony?  People don't just get here by accident (or to Europe with the help of human trafficker George Soros), they get there thru human trafficking, or "coyotes" in the case of illegals from Mexico or crossing thru Mexico (from say Venezuelans escaping initially to Columbia).

I agree, it isn't just Left ... it is also Right, and it is criminality.  Part of the universal criminality we call humanity.  Interviews say 80% of the women and girls who make it here ... who don't get enslaved in Mexico to the drug gangs or murdered ... are rape victims.  Nobody here approves of rape.  So how do we deal with criminals here, and criminals in Mexico who are enabling this?  Nuke them?

You are welcome, to adopt all the abandoned children in the US, both born here and not born here ... but expect it to be expensive.  I say, tax the US at 100%, so that all the abandoned children in the US can be put up in Trump hotels ;-)  I would be fine with that ... I expect you to pay for it though.  People misunderstand money.  Free backless printing of money is part of what destroys Latin America.

Poor people think everyone in Europe or the US live like kings and queens.  They see it on TV (reruns of Dynasty or Dallas).  Most people who're in need, think that money is free.  Just print up a trillion for Mexico, for Columbia, for Venezuela etc.  Lack of understanding of money, and interest ... is part of what drives socialism.  Free lunches for everyone!

[Baruch]

Because it's better than the hellhole they live in

True ... there are thousands of Mexicans or Venezuelans who want to move in with you.  Please sent them paid for airline tickets and food chits so they can come and join you.  I love Latin Americans, unfortunately I can't afford to sponsor any.

[Mermaid]

So do you support human trafficking in general, and children in particular?  What is your solution to human trafficking ... a known felony?  People don't just get here by accident (or to Europe with the help of human trafficker George Soros), they get there thru human trafficking, or "coyotes" in the case of illegals from Mexico or crossing thru Mexico (from say Venezuelans escaping initially to Columbia).

I agree, it isn't just Left ... it is also Right, and it is criminality.  Part of the universal criminality we call humanity.  Interviews say 80% of the women and girls who make it here ... who don't get enslaved in Mexico to the drug gangs or murdered ... are rape victims.  Nobody here approves of rape.  So how do we deal with criminals here, and criminals in Mexico who are enabling this?  Nuke them?

You are welcome, to adopt all the abandoned children in the US, both born here and not born here ... but expect it to be expensive.  I say, tax the US at 100%, so that all the abandoned children in the US can be put up in Trump hotels ;-)  I would be fine with that ... I expect you to pay for it though.  People misunderstand money.  Free backless printing of money is part of what destroys Latin America.

Poor people think everyone in Europe or the US live like kings and queens.  They see it on TV (reruns of Dynasty or Dallas).  Most people who're in need, think that money is free.  Just print up a trillion for Mexico, for Columbia, for Venezuela etc.  Lack of understanding of money, and interest ... is part of what drives socialism.  Free lunches for everyone!

What on earth are you rambling on about?

[Baruch]

What on earth are you rambling on about?

Shiranu is both correct and incorrect ... that the political element is involved here.  In context, there is nothing, not even toilet paper, that isn't in a political t(issue).  But virtue signaling gets nobody anything, except unjustified good feeling.  Nobody here wants to actually be virtuous, they just want to talk like they are (we all want to think good of corrupt egos).

So yes, there is a human migratory problem (going on since ancient Egypt).  And today this is enabled and exploited by criminal elements.  Pharaoh knew how to deal with this 5000 years ago, he bashed in the heads of unwanted immigrants.  Settled peoples have never had tolerance for nomads.  I hope we can be more "progressive" than that.  But I doubt it, push comes to shove.

[Baruch]

How does the Left (progressives) deal with human misery?



The French are The Left.  The Russians followed the French.  And others followed the Russians .. including Mexico in 1910.

But peasant revolts are always temporary.  There is always a new hierarchy in society.  Marx was a personal failure, an idiot savant.

What does the Left want ... always the same ... The Terror.  Of course the Right (with status quo) thinks they are wonderful too.

A booklet by Martin Luther circa 1525 ... "Against the Murderous, Thieving Hordes of Peasants"