Feminism - Before & After

[pr126]

As a fellow male, I HAVE to tell you that you must be either kidding or you are burning your stew at the bottom and can't tell...

Not kidding. I know what my problem is.

I am not infected with the Karl Marx virus.
Many here are.
The media and the academia worked very hard for a century to infect you all.

[Baruch]

I'm not certain but it might have been "Or is this one of those things where a bunch of guys are out of earshot of their wives, and it becomes fashionable to make negative generalizations about women, because you're in a safe zone".

Men have no safe zone (it used to be the work place).  White people have no cry closet ;-)  Men have been doing this since they congregated at the whine bar in ancient Rome.  Men and women bitch differently.  If you don't like the negative generalizations (and yes they are unfair) then voice your idealism all you want to.  Nobody is listening to virtue signaling.  Maybe there is a heaven, where everything is just perfect, per John Lennon.  But not for atheists, sorry.  You feed worms same as the Popes.

[Baruch]

Well, yes, they obviously exist.

White supremacists are waiting for the opportunity for a reverse General Sherman, burning everything down in a march across New England ;-(

[Baruch]

That question was not designed to troll for a reaction.  I asked because I've seen guys do this in groups.  I'm talking about guys who love their wives, but still make odd generalizations about them.  Hell, I've seen women make odd generalizations about men.  So I asked because the whole anti-feminism thing seems to me like it's partially fabricated to create an issue.  I really had no idea that anti-feminism was a current global movement, or that men were so deeply bothered by it.

Anyone wronged by these paragons of false virtue, women ... probably have no further love for them (aside from puerile sex).  I am not one of those ... I have been wronged, by individuals who happen to be women, and wronged by individuals who happen to be men.  But some Western men have gone jihadi.  Those men in non-Western countries have never been liberated, and have no intention of being so.

[Baruch]

I've never come face to face with a neo nazi or a white supremacist, but apparently they exist according to people on these threads

If you aren't cross-dressing and planning the operation you are a misogynist.  If you aren't going Dolezal and presenting as a different race, you are racist.

I am glad you have never met a neo-nazi or a white supremacist .. nasty blokes.

[Cavebear]

Not kidding. I know what my problem is.

I am not infected with the Karl Marx virus.
Many here are.

And neither am I.  That's probably what confuses you about me.  And your assumption that all us atheists are communists is just SO SO wrOng.   (That was deliberate).   I'm no more a communist than you are.  Actually, as a "Nationalist Socialist" you are closer to be a COMMIE than I am, LOL!

I like the idea of feeding kids in failed households.  For the kids's sakes.  I like the idea that those kids should have a chance to grow up in normal apartments if not houses.  I grew up in apartments and houses and it worked out pretty well.  I like the idea of educating children to their full potential.  Why wouldn't anyone?

So WHY do you have a problem with that?

[Baruch]

I am not specifically involved with any political women's movement and I am not and never have been married, so I actually don't have a personal part in this. 

But let me give you an example of my typical experience as a fellow male. 

I was assigned a 4 week travel to Ft Worth TX to evaluate contract proposals with a guy from San Francisco and another from Washington DC,  The other 2 guys were married.  It took them only 2 days to find "temporary wives".  For the 4 weeks.  They cheated the instant they possibly could.  And they were typical.  And that guy from Washington DC was my supervisor.   I detested him after that travel.  He left the govt soon after, seeking fortune and fame in the commercial world.

Not been on many business trips, but nobody was ever so bold as to admit such things.  Totally unforgivable, hope their wives took them for everything.  On the other hand, this is why you don't take your secretary with you on trips (only executives could) ... probably banging her every day anyway, if you are Bill Clinton.  You don't need a sex parter to get off, even if you can't get any sex at home either.

[Baruch]

Not kidding. I know what my problem is.

I am not infected with the Karl Marx virus.
Many here are.
The media and the academia worked very hard for a century to infect you all.

Longer, since the French Revolution.  Where is the Scarlet Pimpernel when you need him?

[Baruch]

And neither am I.  That's probably what confuses you about me.  And your assumption that all us atheists are communists is just SO SO wrOng.   (That was deliberate).   I'm no more a communist than you are.  Actually, as a "Nationalist Socialist" you are closer to be a COMMIE than I am, LOL!

I like the idea of feeding kids in failed households.  For the kids's sakes.  I like the idea that those kids should have a chance to grow up in normal apartments if not houses.  I grew up in apartments and houses and it worked out pretty well.  I like the idea of educating children to their full potential.  Why wouldn't anyone?

So WHY do you have a problem with that?

Marxism isn't about the poor, the poor are just the excuse for political jihadis to achieve power.

[pr126]

I did not say, communist.
The Karl Marx ideology is morphed into cultural Marxism, (Critical Theory) when the class warfare did not work out after WWI.

A new approach was designed, to attack the culture, eliminate the family, religion (Christianity in particular) not Islam which is used now to accelerate the process of destabilization of western society by the influx of millions of hostile unassimilable migrants.

See Frankfurt School, Fabian Society, Common Purpose.

BTW, National Socialists aka Nazis (Hitler & Co.) are on the left. I don't subscribe to that group.

Is your second paragraph a non sequitur?  It doesn't seem to belong to this subject.
Anyway, I do not have a problem with that.

[SGOS]

I am not specifically involved with any political women's movement and I am not and never have been married, so I actually don't have a personal part in this. 

But let me give you an example of my typical experience as a fellow male. 

I was assigned a 4 week travel to Ft Worth TX to evaluate contract proposals with a guy from San Francisco and another from Washington DC,  The other 2 guys were married.  It took them only 2 days to find "temporary wives".  For the 4 weeks.  They cheated the instant they possibly could.  And they were typical.  And that guy from Washington DC was my supervisor.   I detested him after that travel.  He left the govt soon after, seeking fortune and fame in the commercial world.

I have to draw upon my experience from the 1970s to respond to this, and even then I don't know if it's appropriate because I'm not sure where you were going with this story.  I met a feminist woman back then who was all about having sex with multiple partners, including the husbands of her friends (sisters as she called them).  Her justification was that this was OK, because all men do it.  The fact that she wrecked one friend's marriage was one negative outcome.

First, I don't care how many partners she takes on.  If she wants to amass a record, then go for it, and I've known a few women like that.  To each their own.  But I think her reasoning was wrong.  Not all men do that.  More likely it was pure and simple lust on her part, but that requires no justification to me.  We are all biological beings, but can still make choices.

As far as your colleague's behavior, I've heard that some people have agreed upon open marriages, but I doubt it's the norm, and I question how many marriages are actually that open.  If they are, then I'm not going to worry about it.

But infidelity can do a lot of damage to yourself and others, including other people's marriages, and your own, and especially to the partner you have made a commitment to.  And infidelity, whether by men or women, seems like a terribly selfish behavior, not withstanding the physical health risks to you, to others, and to the people you presumably love.  It's not a very nice way to treat others.

[Cavebear]

I did not say, communist.
The Karl Marx ideology is morphed into cultural Marxism, (Critical Theory) when the class warfare did not work out after WWI.

A new approach was designed, to attack the culture, eliminate the family, religion (Christianity in particular) not Islam which is used now to accelerate the process of destabilization of western society by the influx of millions of hostile unassimilable migrants.

See Frankfurt School, Fabian Society, Common Purpose.

BTW, National Socialists aka Nazis (Hitler & Co.) are on the left. I don't subscribe to that group.

Is your second paragraph a non sequitur?  It doesn't seem to belong to this subject.
Anyway, I do not have a problem with that.

Well, you have thrown around "communist" accusations at US democrats in the past.  I was being cautious about that.

But you certainly ARE extremely conservative, almost Nazi-like.   But that may be a religious conservatism.  Tell me I'm wrong.

[Baruch]

Well, you have thrown around "communist" accusations at US democrats in the past.  I was being cautious about that.

But you certainly ARE extremely conservative, almost Nazi-like.   But that may be a religious conservatism.  Tell me I'm wrong.

That was me ... yes, all D's since the 60s are communists ... and worse ... Umpa-loompas.

But Marxist is the current 'go to' term.

[pr126]

But you certainly ARE extremely conservative, almost Nazi-like.   But that may be a religious conservatism.  Tell me I'm wrong.

Wrong.
Not at all religious conservatism, I was, I am, and will be an atheist.
A total disbelief in the supernatural.

All gods and all religions are man-made purely for control of the masses.
All prophets ever existed were mentally unbalanced, or fakes.

Edit: some who left religion has taken their politics as a religion, with the same fervor as a fundamentalist.

 I'll thank you not to label me as a Nazi.
 

[Cavebear]

Wrong.
Not at all religious conservatism, I was, I am, and will be an atheist.
A total disbelief in the supernatural.

All gods and all religions are man-made purely for control of the masses.
All prophets ever existed were mentally unbalanced, or fakes.

Edit: some who left religion has taken their politics as a religion, with the same fervor as a fundamentalist.

 I'll thank you not to label me as a Nazi.

You never fail to surprize me.  Are you unaware that you use to espouse nazi-istic ideas?

But I will stay aware of your current views.  BTW, what are they?