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pr126

Yes, inclusiveness.
It is well known how Islam is tolerant of other religions. Especially Christianity and Judaism.

It is in the Quran.

Here is one of the many:

Quran 5:51

O you who have believed, do not take the Jews and the Christians as allies. They are [in fact] allies of one another. And whoever is an ally to them among you - then indeed, he is [one] of them. Indeed, Allah guides not the wrongdoing people.

For other religions:

Quran 9:5

Kill the idolaters wherever you find them.

Tolerance. Yes. "LOL wut" indeed.

Islam/Interfaith is a western construct, a wishful thinking.
Some will desperately hang on to it because it makes them feel better. Just like #NOTALLMUSLIMS*
Feelings are more important than facts.
   
* everybody knows that nor all Muslims are jihadist, but it needs to be said for virtue signalling.



Baruch

In so far as Christians are supposed to be agents for the Byzantine Empire starting in 325 CE ... they have a very old political agenda too.  But they haven't been practicing it lately, and most Christians don't realize they are supposed to be the un-dead army of un-dead Emperor Constantine.
Ha’át’íísh baa naniná?
Azee’ Å,a’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
What are you doing?
Are you taking any medications?
Don't do that.

Mermaid

Quote from: pr126 on June 10, 2018, 01:07:26 AM
Yes, inclusiveness.
It is well known how Islam is tolerant of other religions. Especially Christianity and Judaism.

It is in the Quran.

Here is one of the many:

Quran 5:51

O you who have believed, do not take the Jews and the Christians as allies. They are [in fact] allies of one another. And whoever is an ally to them among you - then indeed, he is [one] of them. Indeed, Allah guides not the wrongdoing people.

For other religions:

Quran 9:5

Kill the idolaters wherever you find them.

Tolerance. Yes. "LOL wut" indeed.

Islam/Interfaith is a western construct, a wishful thinking.
Some will desperately hang on to it because it makes them feel better. Just like #NOTALLMUSLIMS*
Feelings are more important than facts.
   
* everybody knows that nor all Muslims are jihadist, but it needs to be said for virtue signalling.



From the Bible:

Deuteronomy 13:

6 If your very own brother, or your son or daughter, or the wife you love, or your closest friend secretly entices you, saying, “Let us go and worship other gods” (gods that neither you nor your ancestors have known, 7 gods of the peoples around you, whether near or far, from one end of the land to the other), 8 do not yield to them or listen to them. Show them no pity. Do not spare them or shield them. 9 You must certainly put them to death. Your hand must be the first in putting them to death, and then the hands of all the people. 10 Stone them to death, because they tried to turn you away from the Lord your God, who brought you out of Egypt, out of the land of slavery. 11 Then all Israel will hear and be afraid, and no one among you will do such an evil thing again.12 If you hear it said about one of the towns the Lord your God is giving you to live in 13 that troublemakers have arisen among you and have led the people of their town astray, saying, “Let us go and worship other gods” (gods you have not known), 14 then you must inquire, probe and investigate it thoroughly. And if it is true and it has been proved that this detestable thing has been done among you, 15 you must certainly put to the sword all who live in that town. You must destroy it completely, both its people and its livestock. 16 You are to gather all the plunder of the town into the middle of the public square and completely burn the town and all its plunder as a whole burnt offering to the Lord your God. That town is to remain a ruin forever, never to be rebuilt.

Deuteronomy 17

If there be found among you, within any of thy gates which the LORD thy God giveth thee, man or woman, that hath wrought wickedness in the sight of the LORD thy God, in transgressing his covenant; 17:3 And hath gone and served other gods, and worshipped them, either the sun, or moon, or any of the host of heaven, which I have not commanded; 17:4 And it be told thee, and thou hast heard of it, and enquired diligently, and, behold, it be true, and the thing certain, that such abomination is wrought in Israel; 17:5 Then shalt thou bring forth that man or that woman, which have committed that wicked thing, unto thy gates, even that man or that woman, and shalt stone them with stones, till they die.


Your selective condemnation of Muslims is blatantly hypocritical.
A cynical habit of thought and speech, a readiness to criticise work which the critic himself never tries to perform, an intellectual aloofness which will not accept contact with life’s realities â€" all these are marks, not as the possessor would fain to think, of superiority but of weakness. -TR

pr126

Why do Christians keep ignoring those verses from the Bible? Are they not true believers?
When was the last time they acted on those verses?

Why [some] Muslims do not ignore those verses in the Quran?
When was the last time they acted on those verses?

Tu Quoque much? It doesn't even work.

I see that you cannot bypass your indoctrination. Pity.

Mermaid

Quote from: pr126 on June 10, 2018, 12:11:55 PM
Why do Christians keep ignoring those verses from the Bible? Are they not true believers?
When was the last time they acted on those verses?

Why [some] Muslims do not ignore those verses in the Quran?
When was the last time they acted on those verses?

Tu Quoque much? It doesn't even work.

I see that you cannot bypass your indoctrination. Pity.
You seriously are not making sense here.
How is it not hypocrisy to condemn one religion and not all of them when their texts say the exact same thing?
A cynical habit of thought and speech, a readiness to criticise work which the critic himself never tries to perform, an intellectual aloofness which will not accept contact with life’s realities â€" all these are marks, not as the possessor would fain to think, of superiority but of weakness. -TR

pr126

Quote from: Mermaid on June 10, 2018, 12:53:07 PM
You seriously are not making sense here.
How is it not hypocrisy to condemn one religion and not all of them when their texts say the exact same thing?
Simples. Christians stopped acting on those verses, Muslims didn't.
Too difficult to grasp?


Mermaid

A cynical habit of thought and speech, a readiness to criticise work which the critic himself never tries to perform, an intellectual aloofness which will not accept contact with life’s realities â€" all these are marks, not as the possessor would fain to think, of superiority but of weakness. -TR

pr126

 I raise you 33,2658 deadly terrorist attacks to your recent Christian atrocities against civilians.



This is just last week:

Jihad Report
Jun 02, 2018 -
Jun 08, 2018

Attacks   39
Killed   200
Injured   280
Suicide Blasts   5
Countries   13

Any questions?

Baruch

Quote from: pr126 on June 10, 2018, 01:26:46 PM
I raise you 33,2658 deadly terrorist attacks to your recent Christian atrocities against civilians.



This is just last week:

Jihad Report
Jun 02, 2018 -
Jun 08, 2018

Attacks   39
Killed   200
Injured   280
Suicide Blasts   5
Countries   13

Any questions?

If one thinks that Christians are intrinsically evil ... then lack of current statistics doesn't matter.  If on thinks that Nazis are intrinsically evil ... or communists are intrinsically evil ... then lack of current statistics doesn't matter.  That is what makes ideology or paranoia, particularly in combination, such fun times.
Ha’át’íísh baa naniná?
Azee’ Å,a’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
What are you doing?
Are you taking any medications?
Don't do that.

Baruch

Quote from: pr126 on June 10, 2018, 12:11:55 PM
Why do Christians keep ignoring those verses from the Bible? Are they not true believers?
When was the last time they acted on those verses?

Why [some] Muslims do not ignore those verses in the Quran?
When was the last time they acted on those verses?

Tu Quoque much? It doesn't even work.

I see that you cannot bypass your indoctrination. Pity.

Well it cuts that way for Jews too ... convenient to pretend that there isn't anti-Semitism in hatred of Arabs or Jews.  Most Christians of course are not Semites ... they are Cro-Magnons ;-)
Ha’át’íísh baa naniná?
Azee’ Å,a’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
What are you doing?
Are you taking any medications?
Don't do that.

pr126

Many here think that Christianity is the ultimate evil on the planet, while completely, even willfully ignoring demonstrable evidence of Islamic advance.
On the contrary, they are helping, facilitating, financing their rise to power.
There is an agenda behind it. Get rid of Christianity. It is in the way. It must be erased.

For example, it is not altruism that drives the EU oligarch to import millions of unassimilable hostile "refugees" to Europe. It is part of the globalization project, the replacement of European people.

The Coudenhove-Kalergi plan â€" The genocide of the Peoples of Europe

QuoteThe man of the future will be of mixed race. The races and classes of today will gradually disappear due to the elimination of space, time, and prejudice. The Eurasian-negroid race of the future, similar in appearance to the Ancient Egyptians, will replace the current diversity of peoples and the diversity of individuals. Instead of destroying European Judaism, Europe, against her will, refined and educated this people, driving them to their future status as a leading nation through this artificial evolutionary process. It’s not surprising that the people that escaped from the Ghetto-Prison, became the spiritual nobility of Europe. Thus, the compassionate care given by Europe created a new breed of aristocrats. This happened when the European feudal aristocracy crashed because of the emancipation of the Jews [due to the actions taken by the French Revolution]



Baruch

Quote from: pr126 on June 10, 2018, 02:03:32 PM
Many here think that Christianity is the ultimate evil on the planet, while completely, even willfully ignoring demonstrable evidence of Islamic advance.
On the contrary, they are helping, facilitating, financing their rise to power.
There is an agenda behind it. Get rid of Christianity. It is in the way. It must be erased.

For example, it is not altruism that drives the EU oligarch to import millions of unassimilable hostile "refugees" to Europe. It is part of the globalization project, the replacement of European people.

The Coudenhove-Kalergi plan â€" The genocide of the Peoples of Europe

Right ... anti-Semitism was a positive development ... for the children.
Ha’át’íísh baa naniná?
Azee’ Å,a’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
What are you doing?
Are you taking any medications?
Don't do that.

Unbeliever

Quote from: SGOS on June 09, 2018, 09:54:29 PM
This is not to say I don't think Islam is a problem.  Any religion is a problem when it gains power.  We fight the battles that threaten us right now.  We don't want to waste our energy fighting an ideology that currently poses little threat, and that is not to say that Islam will never pose a threat here.

Islam is a threat in the U.S., but it's not threatening to institute a theocracy here, as is Christianity. And the threat of theocracy is much greater than the threat posed by Islamic terrorism, I think.
God Not Found
"There is a sucker born-again every minute." - C. Spellman

Unbeliever

Quote from: pr126 on June 09, 2018, 11:43:36 PM
The problem is that Americans and Europeans by enlarge are ignorant of Islam, perhaps willfully so.

The academic and media are airbrushed all Islamic history, its conquests, the brutal slaughter of the conquered people, (nearly 300 million)  their destruction of invaded lands and their total eradication of the indigenous cultures since 622 AD.

The eradication of Christian churches, Hindu temples, Buddhist worship places. all other religious edifices  and replaced them with mosques.

There were periods in history when Christians did all of those thing, too - and haven't completely stopped, either. Abrahamic religions are all scourges and pestilences, we've just managed to somewhat constrain the excesses of Christianity, whereas the people in the Middle East have not done that yet with their form of the Abrahamic religion. Only they can really do that, and only when they stop enabling Muslim fundamentalists and join the real world can we or they ever have any peace.
God Not Found
"There is a sucker born-again every minute." - C. Spellman

SGOS

Quote from: Unbeliever on June 10, 2018, 05:15:46 PM
Islam is a threat in the U.S., but it's not threatening to institute a theocracy here, as is Christianity. And the threat of theocracy is much greater than the threat posed by Islamic terrorism, I think.
I agree.  While the threat of terrorism is bloody ugly, a theocracy would change the very fabric of Western Democracy, which was one Hell of a good idea at one time.  If Christians ever do get their theocracy, they will be teaching it in public schools instead of science, and our children will be learning alternate facts.  Ignorance will become fashionable, even more than it already is.

It's not like we are sitting on our hands ignoring terrorism either.  So far, police work is being used fairly effectively to combat terrorism in the US, at least since 9-11 woke us up. And I'm not sure what more we can do.  Well there's more I suppose, but it could be pretty unthinkable.