Author Topic: How many conservative/Republican atheists are on here?  (Read 3959 times)

Offline SGOS

Re: How many conservative/Republican atheists are on here?
« Reply #45 on: June 01, 2018, 12:34:38 AM »
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I am pleased to present my political/social location...
That's exactly where mine showed up, although I was not proud to be located on a chart or pleased enough to post it.  Basically, I didn't care what it said.  I took the test because everyone else was taking it, and I was annoyed the entire time.

Offline pr126

Re: How many conservative/Republican atheists are on here?
« Reply #46 on: June 01, 2018, 12:47:00 AM »
Trigger warning!

I am sure this will ruffle a few feathers.

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In fact, the American version consistently denigrates "old white guys" as the scourge of humanity while ostensibly promoting the philosophy of "old white guys" such as Hobbes, Hegel, and Marx.  In reality, American leftism is a unique amalgamation of socialism, Darwinism, and oligarchism requiring an army of foot soldiers who dwell in a state of permanent adolescence.

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Americans are, by and large, obsessed with finding "meaning" in their lives.  For the left and its acolytes, the easiest way to achieve that meaning is either to be a victim or to vociferously champion the cause of those the enlightened leaders of the left christen with exalted victim status.  This has the dual endgame of not only self-righteousness, but blaming the cause of the victimhood on a repressive and unfair society.  However, it is becoming increasingly difficult to be a victim in 21st-century America, therefore new categories of victimhood must constantly be fostered, and the old categories never resolved.  The latest: What heretofore was considered a serious mental health problem, transgenderism or gender dysphoria, is now victimhood on a par with racial discrimination.

Offline Cavebear

Re: How many conservative/Republican atheists are on here?
« Reply #47 on: June 01, 2018, 01:04:12 AM »
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That's exactly where mine showed up, although I was not proud to be located on a chart or pleased enough to post it.  Basically, I didn't care what it said.  I took the test because everyone else was taking it, and I was annoyed the entire time.

I took the test because I am always curious about such things.  And I was "pleased" because it came out pretty much where I thought it would.  I suppose I was "proud" because the result was how I generally think of myself and I think that is a good place to be.  Nothing like a cheap quick test to confirm one's sense of self, LOL!  But it is nice to know who comes out in about the same spot.

You Me and AITM apparently...  Which does not surprise me.
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Offline Baruch

Re: How many conservative/Republican atheists are on here?
« Reply #48 on: June 01, 2018, 03:55:31 AM »
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I'm going to be honest, I didn't even know it was possible to lean that far right on that quiz.

Being exactly on the line between libertarian and authoritarian seems suspicious.  Like he took the test multiple times until he got the result he wanted? ;-)
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Offline Baruch

Re: How many conservative/Republican atheists are on here?
« Reply #49 on: June 01, 2018, 03:59:18 AM »
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It is pretty much a stretch for you to say you are not extremely conservative.  Thousands of posts by you suggest otherwise.

That is the "you" vs "you" thing we were just talking about.  Also the survey uses predictable stereotypes.  But I didn't bend my answers to get the result I wanted, I just used my self-intution.  The 8Values survey showed I was the only Centrist here.  It has a different bias than this survey did.
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Offline Baruch

Re: How many conservative/Republican atheists are on here?
« Reply #50 on: June 01, 2018, 04:01:32 AM »
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Actually it seems that the EU nations are facing the struggle that US States had in forming a Federal Government above the,.  The coordination takes time and trust.  And more time.  Give it a century...

The key difference, the EU constitution is shit, and their central legislative body is powerless, it is the bureaucrats who explicitly control things, and they are not elected.  In the US, the bureaucrats also are the real government, particularly the security agencies, but this is implicit.
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Offline Baruch

Re: How many conservative/Republican atheists are on here?
« Reply #51 on: June 01, 2018, 04:02:30 AM »
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It is pretty much a stretch for you to say you are not extremely conservative.  Thousands of posts by you suggest otherwise.

So you have read over 20,000 posts, and in context as well?  Impressive.  Are you Evelyn Wood?
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Offline Baruch

Re: How many conservative/Republican atheists are on here?
« Reply #52 on: June 01, 2018, 04:03:39 AM »
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I am pleased to present my political/social location...



See, we are both Gandhi.  Want to meditate?  Actually, from a Hindu POV, Gandhi was quite conservative.  Since Gandhi never took this survey (or the other famous people listed) ... where they would be located on the chart is BS.  But then, all monkey shines are BS.
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Offline Baruch

Re: How many conservative/Republican atheists are on here?
« Reply #53 on: June 01, 2018, 04:10:36 AM »
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I would say Trump is the perfect example that voting works or counts. He was not supposed to win and everyone in the media thought it wasnt possible, but they forget that the majority of the country is very conservative. If you look at the middle of the US its hard to find a liberal state. Unfortunately the media is based in very liberal areas and forget that not everyone thinks like the people they surround themselves with.

The average person is pro-status-quo.  Not the same as conservative.  There is always a section of malcontents, who oppose the status quo.  Some are conservative (I want to rape Bitcoin for my own use) or liberal (shut down all the banks, money is evil).  Sometimes there is a temporary overturn of the status quo.  Elections are a non-violent way of doing that.  But all elections, and revolutions are temporary.  Everything returns to the status quo after the protest marches.  The status quo may shift a bit over time, usually a long time and in a random walk (not progress).  This is why revolutions usually aren't progressive, just sociopathic.  And why elections really don't change anything (they are useful distractions so the owners of society continue as before).  And elections are too important to be left in the hands of Joe Plumber ... one has to count the votes ... to protect the children.

BTW - I am a Machiavellian.  I consider human political nature to be basically evil.
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Offline Baruch

Re: How many conservative/Republican atheists are on here?
« Reply #54 on: June 01, 2018, 04:12:43 AM »
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I took the test because I am always curious about such things.  And I was "pleased" because it came out pretty much where I thought it would.  I suppose I was "proud" because the result was how I generally think of myself and I think that is a good place to be.  Nothing like a cheap quick test to confirm one's sense of self, LOL!  But it is nice to know who comes out in about the same spot.

You Me and AITM apparently...  Which does not surprise me.

And me too, which as you point out, makes no sense.  You are easily pleased if you are praised by some brainless survey?  Channeling SGOS here.
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Offline Sal1981

Re: How many conservative/Republican atheists are on here?
« Reply #55 on: June 01, 2018, 04:23:11 AM »
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Trigger warning!

I am sure this will ruffle a few feathers.

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only good part of the article:
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Perhaps growing up in a nation that has not experienced any national adversity in over seventy-plus years or living in a country that has enjoyed the greatest period of peace and prosperity in the history of mankind has created this mindset.
Which is also only part of the article that makes an argument, rest is chide-standing and school-yard level of sophistry. This is the kinda shit that convinces you and you find solitude in PR126?
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Offline Shiranu

Re: How many conservative/Republican atheists are on here?
« Reply #56 on: June 01, 2018, 05:00:14 AM »
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Perhaps growing up in a nation that has not experienced any national adversity in over seventy-plus years or living in a country that has enjoyed the greatest period of peace and prosperity in the history of mankind has created this mindset.

>"Perhaps growing up in a nation... enjoy(ing) the greatest period of peace..."
>Still in the middle of the longest war in American history

0/10, I don't think you are even trying anymore.

Offline Cavebear

Re: How many conservative/Republican atheists are on here?
« Reply #57 on: June 01, 2018, 05:07:16 AM »
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>"Perhaps growing up in a nation... enjoy(ing) the greatest period of peace..."
>Still in the middle of the longest war in American history

0/10, I don't think you are even trying anymore.

Actually, I think the US is having a quiet internal political civil war which may be resolved in a few years. 
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Offline Baruch

Re: How many conservative/Republican atheists are on here?
« Reply #58 on: June 01, 2018, 05:11:09 AM »
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Actually, I think the US is having a quiet internal political civil war which may be resolved in a few years.

Yes, Super-Mueller will find where his wife put his super-suit ;-)

We can hope the the warring sections of the government won't engage in shooting or a coup.
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Offline SGOS

Re: How many conservative/Republican atheists are on here?
« Reply #59 on: June 01, 2018, 08:26:55 AM »
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Perhaps growing up in a nation that has not experienced any national adversity in over seventy-plus years or living in a country that has enjoyed the greatest period of peace and prosperity in the history of mankind has created this mindset.

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Which is also only part of the article. [The] rest is chide-standing and school-yard level of sophistry.
I had a similar reaction to that video.  As incendiary rhetoric, it accomplishes it's goal.  It includes a wide selection of attacks on the target, and equally offends the left while it delights the right.  But... and this is a big "But," it generalizes against the whole left with accusations that describe a small subset of the extreme.

While some of the accusations do actually describe a subgroup, they do not accurately describe the whole, and the generalizations are seldom, if ever, supported.  They are unjustified claims assembled for the purpose of spewing hatred.  I kept wondering who this guy is.  He looks mature and reputable, but when he opens his mouth, he fails to explain why such an emotional level of hatred might even be justified. 

He's a four year old hidden in a grownup body telling his parents how much he hates them.  As parents, its good to recognize your child's true emotional state, and as parents, you make exceptions for that emotional state, because the child is four.  But adults are expected to have developed a sense of reason and an understanding that emotions are something entirely separate from reason, and they are expected to explain their emotional state with a modicum of rational support.

 

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