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How many conservative/Republican atheists are on here?
« on: May 31, 2018, 03:52:21 AM »
I'm curious how many atheists lean to the right....

Can we please keep this civil? All you liberals have 1000's of other posts you can write in and I would really like to just have this one be the people who lean right.

Thank you.

Offline pr126

Re: How many conservative/Republican atheists are on here?
« Reply #1 on: May 31, 2018, 04:14:23 AM »
Well, I am not an American but from the UK.
Not a liberal, or a millennial. Not Marxist indoctrinated.
A Conservative, old school. Atheist by birth.


 
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Re: How many conservative/Republican atheists are on here?
« Reply #2 on: May 31, 2018, 04:18:44 AM »
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Well, I am not an American but from the UK.
Not a liberal, or a millennial. Not Marxist indoctrinated.
A Conservative, old school.

Thanks for asking.

Guess i didnt consider that... what would be the UK title for a conservative?

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Re: How many conservative/Republican atheists are on here?
« Reply #3 on: May 31, 2018, 04:21:01 AM »
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Guess i didnt consider that... what would be the UK title for a conservative?

We have Conservatives and Labour. Same difference.
The two parties have identical agendas. Except Labour is Socialist/Marxist.
Come to think of it, so is Conservatives.

 What difference voting makes? None.

Same with the Americans. They just don't know it.


« Last Edit: May 31, 2018, 04:32:49 AM by pr126 »
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Offline Munch

Re: How many conservative/Republican atheists are on here?
« Reply #4 on: May 31, 2018, 04:45:55 AM »
Just to clarify PR here, what he means is the conservative party over here has in recent years seemed to adopt a more left leaning approach to things then at any other time in its history. If anything the current conservative party is today more like how the Labour party would have been 20 years ago
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Offline Baruch

Re: How many conservative/Republican atheists are on here?
« Reply #5 on: May 31, 2018, 05:01:50 AM »
Munch is also British.

I am not British, but I avatar Churchill.  American, but neither conservative nor liberal.  Heretical theist rather than atheist/agnostic.
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Re: How many conservative/Republican atheists are on here?
« Reply #6 on: May 31, 2018, 05:03:55 AM »
So basically the UK has no real conservative representation anymore?

If thats true it will be interesting to watch how fast it falls apart... but feel sorry for the ones who will have to live threw it.

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Re: How many conservative/Republican atheists are on here?
« Reply #7 on: May 31, 2018, 05:07:27 AM »
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So basically the UK has no real conservative representation anymore?

If thats true it will be interesting to watch how fast it falls apart... but feel sorry for the ones who will have to live threw it.

Tories are conservative ... in a class way that we refuse to recognize in the US.  The Republicans are our Tories.

Many claim, including some who live there, that yes, even Britain (let alone the rest of Europe) is falling apart.
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Re: How many conservative/Republican atheists are on here?
« Reply #8 on: May 31, 2018, 05:08:57 AM »
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So basically the UK has no real conservative representation anymore?

If thats true it will be interesting to watch how fast it falls apart... but feel sorry for the ones who will have to live threw it.

Not conventional conservatism no. I mean don't get me wrong, I'm glad to be somewhere in the world where being gay isn't considered a crime anymore, but the current political system falls into it being the left leaning party (Labour) is full of far leftist screwballs, while the conservative party is more centre left now.

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Re: How many conservative/Republican atheists are on here?
« Reply #9 on: May 31, 2018, 05:13:47 AM »
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Not conventional conservatism no. I mean don't get me wrong, I'm glad to be somewhere in the world where being gay isn't considered a crime anymore, but the current political system falls into it being the left leaning party (Labour) is full of far leftist screwballs, while the conservative party is more centre left now.

Political party names are lies as usual.  Republicans are nascent monarchists.  The Democrats are authoritarians.  Laborites don't want to work for a living.  Conservatives aren't (in GB) etc.  and of course Communists aren't communist (that is a future state of utopia never achieved).
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Offline pr126

Re: How many conservative/Republican atheists are on here?
« Reply #10 on: May 31, 2018, 05:46:08 AM »
Actually, in the UK it doesn’t matter.
We are (at the present) ruled by the Eurocrats, so there is no real sovereignty.
A province/vassal state of the EU Empire.
We pay tribute to Brussels. Billions.
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Re: How many conservative/Republican atheists are on here?
« Reply #11 on: May 31, 2018, 10:37:06 AM »
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Same with the Americans. They just don't know it.


I think you're generally right about Americans not knowing it.  Either that or we are both wrong about the value of voting.  I can't speak for Britain, but I think most of us over here, have had it drilled into us that it is a civic duty, and from that we extract that there must be some value in it.

If you say here, "My vote doesn't make a difference," you get a kneejerk response, "Suppose everyone felt that way?"

That's usually a discussion stopper, and it doesn't have a common kneejerk comeback.  But when I actually think about "Suppose everyone felt that way?"  Then I doubt that it would make much difference.  Whether your vote doesn't make a difference or if you mindlessly vote without accurate information (not having accurate information isn't necessarily your fault.  All we hear on TV is bullshit, anyway, and the Internet is probably even worse), the end result is going to be pretty much the same.  The people who run the country for their own ends, are still going to be there doing what they do.  Yeah, OK, it makes a difference, just not a significant one.

Sorry, I'm a liberal and was asked not to respond.  However, I don't think my thoughts on the issue of voting are either liberal or conservative.
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Offline pr126

Re: How many conservative/Republican atheists are on here?
« Reply #12 on: May 31, 2018, 10:50:54 AM »
The word "liberal" for the left doesn't mean what it used to be anymore.
IMHO it has become very illiberal.

The liberals of today are authoritarians, 'my way or the highway'.

Try the word libertarian. Maybe it still exists somewhere.

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Re: How many conservative/Republican atheists are on here?
« Reply #14 on: May 31, 2018, 10:58:34 AM »
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I'm curious how many atheists lean to the right....

Can we please keep this civil? All you liberals have 1000's of other posts you can write in and I would really like to just have this one be the people who lean right.

Thank you.

Just a tip. If you want to keep things civil, don't start with a confrontational paragraph, telling people they're not welcome, presuming that people are salivating at the mouth, just waiting for any excuse to start an argument. "All you Liberals have 1000s of other threads to post in?" No. We do not have Liberal-only threads here. Anyone is free to voice their opinions wherever they like.
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