Author Topic: The Order of Chaos: An Antidote to Meaning  (Read 1824 times)

Offline Baruch

Re: The Order of Chaos: An Antidote to Meaning
« Reply #15 on: May 29, 2018, 07:57:08 PM »
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By "mandated pronouns" do you mean constructions like hir and hem or his/her?  Just asking.

New pronouns isn't an issue.  Ms wasn't.  The problem is mandated stuff, the freedom lobby here loves mandates ... and not just the gay guys.

Don't like post-modern cultural-Marxism caricature?  Then don't be a Soviet cartoon from the 1930s.
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Offline Sal1981

Re: The Order of Chaos: An Antidote to Meaning
« Reply #16 on: May 16, 2019, 11:40:48 AM »
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Everything sucks. Why does everything suck? Because of pain & suffering that permeates existence.

We use humor to diffuse suffering. Makes suffering and pain more bearable. T.J. views optimism as us lying to ourselves and uses the parable of the fox and the "sour" grapes to illustrate this. Overall he views pessimism as an overall counter to suffering, for someone's faults is someone else's gain.

Gives some somewhat traditional arguments about God's lack of existence means any values we give to God are likewise nonexistent. As such, we're the progenitors of meaning and without us there's none to be had.

Mentions how we have made Heaven of Hell, and gives examples of how we've terraformed the planet and our ingenuity thereto.

Explains how we have tried to replace God with art and how spirituality has died out with our lost sense of meaning. That meaning is a trick of the mind, and with optimistic nihilism we're able to create our own meaning out from the chaos, while not deluding ourselves of how there's "no magic in the world".
"The first principle is that you must not fool yourself - and you are the easiest person to fool" --- Richard P. Feynman

Offline Cavebear

Re: The Order of Chaos: An Antidote to Meaning
« Reply #17 on: May 26, 2019, 08:41:24 AM »
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Everything sucks. Why does everything suck? Because of pain & suffering that permeates existence.

We use humor to diffuse suffering. Makes suffering and pain more bearable. T.J. views optimism as us lying to ourselves and uses the parable of the fox and the "sour" grapes to illustrate this. Overall he views pessimism as an overall counter to suffering, for someone's faults is someone else's gain.

Gives some somewhat traditional arguments about God's lack of existence means any values we give to God are likewise nonexistent. As such, we're the progenitors of meaning and without us there's none to be had.

Mentions how we have made Heaven of Hell, and gives examples of how we've terraformed the planet and our ingenuity thereto.

Explains how we have tried to replace God with art and how spirituality has died out with our lost sense of meaning. That meaning is a trick of the mind, and with optimistic nihilism we're able to create our own meaning out from the chaos, while not deluding ourselves of how there's "no magic in the world".

Of course we are "the progenitors of meaning".  We are all that is (I'll include any other mortal sentient beings)...
Atheist born, atheist bred.  And when I die, atheist dead!

Offline Baruch

Re: The Order of Chaos: An Antidote to Meaning
« Reply #18 on: May 26, 2019, 10:40:27 AM »
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Of course we are "the progenitors of meaning".  We are all that is (I'll include any other mortal sentient beings)...

Aka ... demi-gods.  Hence morality doesn't apply to us either.  Earth angels.
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Offline Cavebear

Re: The Order of Chaos: An Antidote to Meaning
« Reply #19 on: May 26, 2019, 11:05:57 PM »
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Aka ... demi-gods.  Hence morality doesn't apply to us either.  Earth angels.

I would say there are no angels, but that would be too simple.  I'll add that there are no humans with a direct connection to a non-existent deity.  So kiss your priest goodbye...
Atheist born, atheist bred.  And when I die, atheist dead!

Offline Baruch

Re: The Order of Chaos: An Antidote to Meaning
« Reply #20 on: May 27, 2019, 12:07:55 AM »
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I would say there are no angels, but that would be too simple.  I'll add that there are no humans with a direct connection to a non-existent deity.  So kiss your priest goodbye...

As a demi-god, I need no priests, unless you are volunteering ;-)
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luu shalmaata luu balt’aata
May you be well, may you be healthy

 

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