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Re: You cannot define Truth
« Reply #75 on: May 29, 2018, 01:13:24 PM »
Good point! I was wondering the same thing.
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Re: You cannot define Truth
« Reply #76 on: May 29, 2018, 01:24:20 PM »
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Logic demonstrates the obvious ... but with rigor ...

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You beer drinkers ;-)  I have worked at Coors, I know that all beer comes from piss.

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Re: You cannot define Truth
« Reply #77 on: May 29, 2018, 01:26:29 PM »
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Logic demonstrates the obvious ... but with rigor ...

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You beer drinkers ;-)  I have worked at Coors, I know that all beer comes from piss.

BTW, you DO realize that your arrows men nothing whatsoever, right?
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Offline Baruch

Re: You cannot define Truth
« Reply #78 on: May 29, 2018, 01:50:25 PM »
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Title: "You cannot define truth."

If that statement is true, would it not [in part] define truth?

Define the result of considering a logical contradiction?  What does that define?  If all words are implicitly contradictory ... then they are meaningless (in themselves).  They are like grunts and farts, it takes context to give them meaning.
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Re: You cannot define Truth
« Reply #79 on: May 29, 2018, 01:58:06 PM »
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Define the result of considering a logical contradiction?  What does that define?  If all words are implicitly contradictory ... then they are meaningless (in themselves).  They are like grunts and farts, it takes context to give them meaning.

As usual, a faulty premise.  All words are NOT implicitly contradictory.
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Re: You cannot define Truth
« Reply #80 on: May 29, 2018, 02:09:03 PM »
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Define the result of considering a logical contradiction?  What does that define?  If all words are implicitly contradictory ... then they are meaningless (in themselves).  They are like grunts and farts, it takes context to give them meaning.
"If all words are implicitly contradictory", which they are not.

Words are meaningless - their meanings are implied, and often misunderstood in conversations... Like this one.

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Re: You cannot define Truth
« Reply #81 on: May 29, 2018, 02:25:04 PM »
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"If all words are implicitly contradictory", which they are not.

Words are meaningless - their meanings are implied, and often misunderstood in conversations... Like this one.

Words do have meanings.  In context.  But often misunderstood.
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Re: You cannot define Truth
« Reply #82 on: May 29, 2018, 02:28:54 PM »
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Words do have meanings.  In context.  But often misunderstood.
I can live with that :)

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Re: You cannot define Truth
« Reply #83 on: May 29, 2018, 08:01:34 PM »
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Ah you are missing the wonderful smell of asparagine...  But then SOME people like fish eggs...

Real beluga caviar is pretty good, I have had some.  Some like fowl eggs ;-)
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Re: You cannot define Truth
« Reply #84 on: May 29, 2018, 08:04:00 PM »
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"If all words are implicitly contradictory", which they are not.

Words are meaningless - their meanings are implied, and often misunderstood in conversations... Like this one.

Find me a dictionary without words.  That is part of the meaning of the original post.  You have an object language, but you can't talk about that language, just in it.  To talk about an object language, you have to have a metalanguage, that has words in it that aren't in the object language.  And up the ladder it goes, more an more abstract, more and more meaningless (disconnected from practical reality).

Nobody here, watched the videos, not even the simple ones.  But are qualified to comment ;-)  I at least watch all that I post.
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