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You cannot define Truth

Started by Baruch, May 06, 2018, 03:48:57 PM

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Unbeliever

Good point! I was wondering the same thing.
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Cavebear

Quote from: Baruch on May 27, 2018, 12:07:35 PM
Logic demonstrates the obvious ... but with rigor ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=97fU6yyNaB4

You beer drinkers ;-)  I have worked at Coors, I know that all beer comes from piss.

Bear Whiz Beer:  "Its in the water, son, that's why it's yellow"!
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Cavebear

Quote from: Baruch on May 27, 2018, 12:07:35 PM
Logic demonstrates the obvious ... but with rigor ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=97fU6yyNaB4

You beer drinkers ;-)  I have worked at Coors, I know that all beer comes from piss.

BTW, you DO realize that your arrows men nothing whatsoever, right?
Atheist born, atheist bred.  And when I die, atheist dead!

Baruch

Quote from: Emancipated on May 29, 2018, 01:11:51 PM
Title: "You cannot define truth."

If that statement is true, would it not [in part] define truth?

Define the result of considering a logical contradiction?  What does that define?  If all words are implicitly contradictory ... then they are meaningless (in themselves).  They are like grunts and farts, it takes context to give them meaning.
Ha’át’íísh baa naniná?
Azee’ Å,a’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
What are you doing?
Are you taking any medications?
Don't do that.

Cavebear

Quote from: Baruch on May 29, 2018, 01:50:25 PM
Define the result of considering a logical contradiction?  What does that define?  If all words are implicitly contradictory ... then they are meaningless (in themselves).  They are like grunts and farts, it takes context to give them meaning.

As usual, a faulty premise.  All words are NOT implicitly contradictory.
Atheist born, atheist bred.  And when I die, atheist dead!

Emancipated

Quote from: Baruch on May 29, 2018, 01:50:25 PM
Define the result of considering a logical contradiction?  What does that define?  If all words are implicitly contradictory ... then they are meaningless (in themselves).  They are like grunts and farts, it takes context to give them meaning.
"If all words are implicitly contradictory", which they are not.

Words are meaningless - their meanings are implied, and often misunderstood in conversations... Like this one.

Cavebear

Quote from: Emancipated on May 29, 2018, 02:09:03 PM
"If all words are implicitly contradictory", which they are not.

Words are meaningless - their meanings are implied, and often misunderstood in conversations... Like this one.

Words do have meanings.  In context.  But often misunderstood.
Atheist born, atheist bred.  And when I die, atheist dead!

Emancipated

Quote from: Cavebear on May 29, 2018, 02:25:04 PM
Words do have meanings.  In context.  But often misunderstood.
I can live with that :)

Baruch

Quote from: Cavebear on May 29, 2018, 12:49:19 PM
Ah you are missing the wonderful smell of asparagine...  But then SOME people like fish eggs...

Real beluga caviar is pretty good, I have had some.  Some like fowl eggs ;-)
Ha’át’íísh baa naniná?
Azee’ Å,a’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
What are you doing?
Are you taking any medications?
Don't do that.

Baruch

Quote from: Emancipated on May 29, 2018, 02:09:03 PM
"If all words are implicitly contradictory", which they are not.

Words are meaningless - their meanings are implied, and often misunderstood in conversations... Like this one.

Find me a dictionary without words.  That is part of the meaning of the original post.  You have an object language, but you can't talk about that language, just in it.  To talk about an object language, you have to have a metalanguage, that has words in it that aren't in the object language.  And up the ladder it goes, more an more abstract, more and more meaningless (disconnected from practical reality).

Nobody here, watched the videos, not even the simple ones.  But are qualified to comment ;-)  I at least watch all that I post.
Ha’át’íísh baa naniná?
Azee’ Å,a’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
What are you doing?
Are you taking any medications?
Don't do that.