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Offline SGOS

Re: Retarded Twitter
« Reply #15 on: May 03, 2018, 09:44:49 PM »
Being offended is sometimes fashionable, but I think it's always been like that. Maybe it's more so today.  I'm not sure.  People seem to like to post being offended on Utube.  It's seems like a strange way to feel empowered, or whatever they are looking for.
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Online Hydra009

Re: Retarded Twitter
« Reply #16 on: May 04, 2018, 12:27:10 AM »
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Being offended is sometimes fashionable, but I think it's always been like that. Maybe it's more so today.  I'm not sure.  People seem to like to post being offended on Utube.  It's seems like a strange way to feel empowered, or whatever they are looking for.
The difference is now that it's a little clip or quote (which may or may not be misleading, or even true) posted online and you near instantly get a million eyeballs with almost as many snap judgments.  Not that people in yesteryear were any better, but at least there, the truth would catch up in short order.  Now, the damage is done before the truth even puts on its shoes.

Offline Shiranu

Re: Retarded Twitter
« Reply #17 on: May 04, 2018, 01:31:06 AM »
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I'm kind of hoping history looks back at this era as The Age of Offense, as a cautionary tale of what happened to people with thin skin

I'm sure I've said it before, but acting like this is the age of offense is really dull.

Our parents generation lost their shit if they had to share a restaurant, school or bus with a black person... or if you look at them wrong, they want to see your manager, have you fired and also get half the store for free as reparation. To me, that is infinitely further thin skinned.than anything that happens now. The only difference is the internet makes smaller, stupider things more visible.

I would argue our generation is in fact quite possibly the least offended in human history overall.
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Online Munch

Re: Retarded Twitter
« Reply #18 on: May 04, 2018, 04:35:56 AM »
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I'm sure I've said it before, but acting like this is the age of offense is really dull.

Our parents generation lost their shit if they had to share a restaurant, school or bus with a black person... or if you look at them wrong, they want to see your manager, have you fired and also get half the store for free as reparation. To me, that is infinitely further thin skinned.than anything that happens now. The only difference is the internet makes smaller, stupider things more visible.

I would argue our generation is in fact quite possibly the least offended in human history overall.

Seems more like your trying to make out the last generation is worse then this one. Sorry but hydra hit the nail there. Not only does this generation still have racists in it, but they exist on both sides of any argument, extremism on both sides of the political and social spectrum, and coupled with people broadcasting their offense to the world now, and people equally getting offended by what they post.

Edit: ha, looks like someone already coined the name.

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Offline Mr.Obvious

Re: Retarded Twitter
« Reply #19 on: May 04, 2018, 05:38:59 AM »
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I understand white people wearing like feather hairdresses being unacceptable, and the appropriation of African American culture being extremely problematic, but that has much more to do with the spiritual aspect for the native Americans and the history of whites and Africans.

This I think is much more a grey zone of "why?"; I personally don't have any problem with people wearing say Italian clothing or middle eastern outfits because they think it looks nice. It's when people wear it to look "exotic" or funny that I think it enters the realm of offensive. And I think that applies to other cultures as well.

If Chinese people aren't offended by it, and she was wearing it as a form of appreciation, then I really don't think it's anyone business. Cultures trade fashion and cultural traits all the time.

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Offline Baruch

Re: Retarded Twitter
« Reply #20 on: May 04, 2018, 05:49:06 AM »
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I'm sure I've said it before, but acting like this is the age of offense is really dull.

Our parents generation lost their shit if they had to share a restaurant, school or bus with a black person... or if you look at them wrong, they want to see your manager, have you fired and also get half the store for free as reparation. To me, that is infinitely further thin skinned.than anything that happens now. The only difference is the internet makes smaller, stupider things more visible.

I would argue our generation is in fact quite possibly the least offended in human history overall.

Your grandparent's generation, and only in 1/4 of the US.  Not every American in the 60s was an adult, or KKK member.

Generational politics ... just more BS to divide and conquer.  And every generation virtue-signals ... mine did!
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Offline Baruch

Re: Retarded Twitter
« Reply #21 on: May 04, 2018, 05:49:42 AM »
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Being offended is sometimes fashionable, but I think it's always been like that. Maybe it's more so today.  I'm not sure.  People seem to like to post being offended on Utube.  It's seems like a strange way to feel empowered, or whatever they are looking for.

Comments on YouTube are particularly vile ;-(
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Offline SGOS

Re: Retarded Twitter
« Reply #22 on: May 04, 2018, 06:15:13 AM »
In a perfectly balanced world, the number of people for whom taking offense is their greatest joy in life would be balanced by an equal number of people whose greatest life achievement is offending as many others as possible.  Only then can all individuals feel fulfilled and face their deaths knowing that they have truly been people of great character and respected by all.

Offline Baruch

Re: Retarded Twitter
« Reply #23 on: May 04, 2018, 06:19:57 AM »
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In a perfectly balanced world, the number of people for whom taking offense is their greatest joy in life would be balanced by an equal number of people whose greatest life achievement is offending as many others as possible.  Only then can all individuals feel fulfilled and face their deaths knowing that they have truly been people of great character and respected by all.

Monkey's throw poo poo, it is what they do do.
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Offline Shiranu

Re: Retarded Twitter
« Reply #24 on: May 04, 2018, 08:03:52 AM »
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Seems more like your trying to make out the last generation is worse then this one.

Probably because they objectively are worse.
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"Letting go means to come to the realization that some people are a part of your history, but not a part of your destiny" - Steve Maraboli

Re: Retarded Twitter
« Reply #25 on: May 04, 2018, 08:18:13 AM »
I think problems with the concept of cultural appropriation go beyond just offending people. One issue is many people who publically shame others for cultural appropriation are not being nuanced in their assessment of different situations. For example, in this case of a teenager wearing a Chinese style dress critics don't consider motivation, context or that this is an adolescent. They don't empathize that she is a young girl trying to express her individuality and being subjected to a Twitter mob. I find this hypocritical because progressive people often accuse others of not taking a nuanced, empathetic approach to problems and because progressive people usually encourage self-expression and not adhering to cultural norms. There is a difference between a child's Native American Halloween costume, a girl wearing a Chinese style dress to a prom and an adult wearing a skirt covered with Swastikas to Jewish wedding because she thinks it's fun geometric pattern.

Another issue-- I think criticizing cultural appropriation is really an expression of conservative values. Conservatives typically believe groups have their own culture and that their culture needs to be protected. "This belongs to us and you can't have it because you're not one of us" is a conservative attitude. Protecting a cultural customs and mores through public shaming is a conservative tactic. In my estimation, a truly progressive approach would be to encourage people from different groups to share their food, art, fashion, and customs, recognizing that other people are going to take these things, change them, and make them their own. Progressive thinking isn't about preserving the past or protecting cultural norms but creating a new, different, inclusive future.

Offline Mr.Obvious

Re: Retarded Twitter
« Reply #26 on: May 04, 2018, 08:35:24 AM »
I personally think the entire 'cultural appropriation' deal is silly.
I can't find a better word for it. Silly. Useless squable for the sake of squable.

Next thing you'll know you'll have a gang of angry Italians protesting in Chicago for what attrocities the locals performed against their culturally appropriated dish 'pizza'.
And my colleague with tribal tattoos will chased down the street.
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Re: Retarded Twitter
« Reply #27 on: May 04, 2018, 10:14:55 AM »
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I'm sure I've said it before, but acting like this is the age of offense is really dull.

Our parents generation lost their shit if they had to share a restaurant, school or bus with a black person... or if you look at them wrong, they want to see your manager, have you fired and also get half the store for free as reparation. To me, that is infinitely further thin skinned.than anything that happens now. The only difference is the internet makes smaller, stupider things more visible.

I would argue our generation is in fact quite possibly the least offended in human history overall.

Every generation thinks things were better in their youth, and complains about the generations that come after. It's been that way since the invention of old people. Fact of the matter is, however, each generation has made significant improvements in the last few centuries. We have significantly fewer wars, violent crimes are down, gay people actually have rights, we have more people in higher education, religion is finally losing ground as rationality and information take its place, etc. My generation is objectively better than the ones that came before it, and the generations after mine will be even better.
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Born under one law, to another bound;
Vainly begot, and yet forbidden vanity,
Created sick, commanded to be sound."
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Re: Retarded Twitter
« Reply #28 on: May 04, 2018, 10:43:04 AM »
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I find it suspicious when "freedom of speech advocates" complain progressives are constantly offended yet completely ignore when conservatives, particularly religious conservatives, express their endless offense at today's culture. Bill White, the author of the article, sees how some progressives want to silence critics but doesn't seem to recognize that conservatives do the same thing. He also is focusing on college students rather than the government, when the government is where the power is and which is currently controlled by conservatives. Some of these "advocates" seem to ignore actual freedom of speech issues, like the GOVERNMENT of Florida declaring pornography is a public health risk, setting the groundwork for the state to regulate it like tobacco, alcohol and drugs. If Bill White really wants to support freedom of speech he needs to be fair and address the scope of the problem.

Offline Baruch

Re: Retarded Twitter
« Reply #29 on: May 04, 2018, 12:50:35 PM »
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Probably because they objectively are worse.

Kill the feral children, we can always make more ;-)

Old people are the master race.  Young people are the master race.  Follow that logic at your peril.

Young people are spoiled by superior technology ... used to be technology hardly changed over a lifetime.  People start as babies, they grow up, have families, work and die.  Same as always.  People haven't changed much.  The idea that any generation is morally superior (including Greatest Generation) is an invitation to genocide.

Institute Logan's Run, but only after Shiranu turns 30 ;-)
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