Hungarian Elections Won by Far-Right, Xenophobic Party

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pr126

The migrant crisis could cost the German taxpayer 1,000,000,000,000 euros

QuoteIn his autobiography, “In search of the truth”, famous German economist Hans-Werner Sinn says the migrant crisis could cost the country almost one trillion euros, Focus reports. Sinn is a former advisor of Angela Merkel and retired president of the IFO Institute for Economic Research.

Germany accepted 1.5 million migrants since 2015 and Sinn says they are not dentists, lawyers and nuclear scientists, but mostly underqualified immigrants. According to him, these people can never repay what they have received from the German welfare state during their lifetimes.

While German states spent more than â,¬20bn on refugees in 2016, it’s easy to see why Sinn’s one trillion euros estimate is a serious possibility, when looking at lifetime support for migrants. At the same time family reunifications and higher security costs are not (yet) part of the budget.

From an economic point of view, economic refugees can and must be refused, which does not mean that immigration is no longer possible, but that only those people who the EU wants to become citizens are welcome, Sinn writes in his book.

Responsible ethics are those who judge an action only according to its consequences, regardless of the means necessary to enforce it. Applied to the migrant crisis, on the long term it would be better to bring people back to their homeland, but many politicians shy away from that, Sinn concludes.

Why is this called a crisis?

It was long time planned and executed with malice aforethought by the EU oligarchs who were perfectly aware of the irrepearable harm  this will cause to Europe.

The Kalergi plan

QuoteThe Coudenhove-Kalergi plan â€" The genocide of the Peoples of Europe

The huge spate of organised illegal migrant trafficking and forced mass Immigration into Europe has put a huge spotlight back on to 1920s / 30s socialism. The refugee influx is creating chaos throughout much of Europe, especially in Germany and Sweden. A constant flood of boats arriving from Turkey and Africa has revealed a structured network of pre-planned routes into Europe, with the eventual goal of overwhelming Europeans and destroying their homelands. European Nations and their populations have already been dramatically transformed by decades of mass Third World immigration and the relentless promotion of ”diversity” and multiculturalism by the mainstream media, the political elite, academia and their ”progressive” agenda.

This is no coincidence. It was all planned and laid out 100 years ago in the Coudenhove-Kalergi plan. Coudenhove-Kalergi planned for the systematic genocide of the native peoples of Europe. He is regarded as the founding father of the EU.

Mass immigration is a phenomenon, the causes of which are still cleverly concealed by the system, and the multicultural propaganda is trying to falsely portray it as inevitable. With this article we intend to prove once and for all, that this is not a spontaneous phenomenon. What they want to present as an inevitable outcome of modern life, is actually a plan conceived around a table and prepared for decades, to completely destroy the face of the continent.

Kalergi in his own words:

Quote“The (European) man of the future will be of mixed race. Today’s races and classes will disappear owing to the disappearing of space (nations), time, and prejudice. The Eurasian-Negroid race of the future, similar in its outward appearance to the Ancient Egyptians, will replace the diversity of peoples with a diversity of individuals”



SGOS

One thing I didn't understand about the European Union is that it seems to include a forced compliance to a collective ideology, and an ideology that has yet to be fleshed out and finalized.  I thought it was an economic agreement more than anything else.  It seems like it over emphasizes giving up sovereign identity and autonomous control, especially when countries deemed non-compliant are not posing a threat to anyone else.  Is this an incorrect observation?  I'm just trying to understand the structure of the EU better.

Baruch

The Kalergi plan is a conspiracy theory ... like Esperanto.  Someone might as well quote the Protocols of the Elders of Zion.  And lets not forget the Bavarian Illuminati (the real one was George Washington).  My favorite is the Russian conspiracy theory that the Soviet Union deliberately imploded, to go under the radar, to expand thru all the colleges in the West ... bwahah.  Donatien Alphonse François, Marquis de Sade and Count Leopold von Sacher-Masoch ... yes, those nobles have too much time on their hands, and their hands on too many women ... or women on them.  Or pedophilia ;-(  On the other hand ... George Soros is a proponent of Esperanto ... so you might want to look out for any Esperantists lurking in the shadows.  Even the Soviet Union was afraid of Esperanto.

Just one thing on the EU ... Americans should not compare it to the US.  The EU is not ... the United States of Europe, never will be.  At best it will be a totally FU version of Canada.  W Europe had its chance for a single language, Church Latin.
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Táadoo ánít’iní.
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Don't do that.

Shiranu

QuoteI thought it was an economic agreement more than anything else.

I've always understood it as a, "Wow, those world wars sucked. Let's work together to try to behave like one collective rather than a bunch of individuals so that bullshit doesn't happen again.".

Like the UN, but actually successful.
"A little science distances you from God, but a lot of science brings you nearer to Him." - Louis Pasteur

SGOS

Quote from: Shiranu on April 12, 2018, 07:09:24 AM
I've always understood it as a, "Wow, those world wars sucked. Let's work together to try to behave like one collective rather than a bunch of individuals so that bullshit doesn't happen again.".

Like the UN, but actually successful.
I think all unions start out with the intention of being successful.  Everything just ends up going down hill after that.

pr126

@ Baruch:

Whether the Kalergi Plan is a conspiracy theory or not, the end result will be the same.
Europe will be flushed down the pan, either by civil war, world war III or population replacement.
Or an economic collapse under the weight of the mass migration.

The mass migration will not stop.
The governments have no intention to stop it. No matter what the cost or the civil unrest.


If you think it is happening to other people far away, well, those people who are scuttling Europe now have plans for you too.
Canada and the USA better watch your backs.
Remember, this is the New World Order in the making. That includes you.

Gilgamesh

Quote from: Munch on April 12, 2018, 05:57:12 AM
Ah Shiranu, accuses PR of spreading misinformation from unreliable and bias sources, starts the whole thread using nytimes as a source :-)

=]]]]

I already know all about Hungary and so don't give a fuck about the OP's propaganda.

Good for Hungary. Securing a future for themselves and their superior culture, rather than let mudslimes destroy all progress.

SGOS

Quote from: Baruch on April 12, 2018, 07:06:14 AM
The Kalergi plan is a conspiracy theory ... like Esperanto.  Someone might as well quote the Protocols of the Elders of Zion.  And lets not forget the Bavarian Illuminati (the real one was George Washington).  My favorite is the Russian conspiracy theory that the Soviet Union deliberately imploded, to go under the radar, to expand thru all the colleges in the West ... bwahah.  Donatien Alphonse François, Marquis de Sade and Count Leopold von Sacher-Masoch ... yes, those nobles have too much time on their hands, and their hands on too many women ... or women on them.  Or pedophilia ;-(  On the other hand ... George Soros is a proponent of Esperanto ... so you might want to look out for any Esperantists lurking in the shadows.  Even the Soviet Union was afraid of Esperanto.

Just one thing on the EU ... Americans should not compare it to the US.  The EU is not ... the United States of Europe, never will be.  At best it will be a totally FU version of Canada.  W Europe had its chance for a single language, Church Latin.
For those who don't know about the Kalergi Plan like I didn't, I found this interesting read, I'm a bit skeptical about it, but it's an interesting theory.  I'm not vouching for it, but here it is:

http://www.westernspring.co.uk/the-coudenhove-kalergi-plan-the-genocide-of-the-peoples-of-europe/

pr126

The mainstream media is bought and paid for. They are serving their masters, not the public.
If you want the real story you have to find it yourself from independent sources. If you dare.

Many don't.

Baruch

Quote from: Shiranu on April 12, 2018, 07:09:24 AM
I've always understood it as a, "Wow, those world wars sucked. Let's work together to try to behave like one collective rather than a bunch of individuals so that bullshit doesn't happen again.".

Like the UN, but actually successful.

That was the propaganda.  Originally the UN would just do whatever the Security Council told it to do.  The Security Council being made up of the victorious allies from WW II ... and the Soviets had to stay "on side" and not make their own waves.  Well that all went to hell by 1948.  The UN was good for 4 whole years.

So no, we aren't some genuine collective, the UN was to be the executive board for Anglo-American-European neocolonialism.  The Soviets and Chinese would be too busy cleaning up the mess that the Axis created (most destruction and casualties were in the Soviet Union an in China).  And the then current colonies, being in the process of being granted pseudo-autonomy (kept under local elites educated back in the home colonizer), were supposed to stay on-side also.  But India (supposed to be a Commonwealth country like Canada) broke free, as did Vietnam etc.  They had no intention of being puppets.  Essentially that is what Germany tried to do with the EU ... make a neocolonial project out of the rest of Europe.
Ha’át’íísh baa naniná?
Azee’ Å,a’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
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Don't do that.

Baruch

Quote from: SGOS on April 12, 2018, 07:42:03 AM
I think all unions start out with the intention of being successful.  Everything just ends up going down hill after that.

We don't all define success the same way.  GB and India certainly had different ideas.  And the idea that malice doesn't exist, is naive.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=345aojByoGk
Ha’át’íísh baa naniná?
Azee’ Å,a’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
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Don't do that.

Baruch

Quote from: pr126 on April 12, 2018, 08:56:54 AM
@ Baruch:

Whether the Kalergi Plan is a conspiracy theory or not, the end result will be the same.
Europe will be flushed down the pan, either by civil war, world war III or population replacement.
Or an economic collapse under the weight of the mass migration.

The mass migration will not stop.
The governments have no intention to stop it. No matter what the cost or the civil unrest.


If you think it is happening to other people far away, well, those people who are scuttling Europe now have plans for you too.
Canada and the USA better watch your backs.
Remember, this is the New World Order in the making. That includes you.

The best laid plans of mice and men, often cause us to drink a wee dram ;-)

Yes, the US wants to enslave everyone.  So does Russia etc.  Get over it already.  If you can't defend yourselves from the monkey hordes (all of us) ... then kiss your ass goodbye.  Or to quote Thucydides ...
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The secret to happiness is freedom... And the secret to freedom is courage.

History is Philosophy teaching by examples.

The bravest are surely those who have the clearest vision of what is before them, glory and danger alike, and yet notwithstanding, go out to meet it.

Be convinced that to be happy means to be free and that to be free means to be brave. Therefore do not take lightly the perils of war.

We secure our friends not by accepting favors but by doing them.

Ignorance is bold and knowledge reserved.

Wars spring from unseen and generally insignificant causes, the first outbreak being often but an explosion of anger.

It is frequently a misfortune to have very brilliant men in charge of affairs. They expect too much of ordinary men.

Men naturally despise those who court them, but respect those who do not give way to them.

Most importantly ....

The strong do what they have to do and the weak accept what they have to accept.
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It isn't that people don't remember the lessons of history, they don't listen to the lessons of the historians.

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Táadoo ánít’iní.
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Shiranu

#27
NY Times is consistently ranked as moderate with a liberal lean. You think that is unreliable but will trust randos with no sources on YouTube or Brietbart, who even Fox distance themselves from. And then you want to act like you aren't partisan and act high and mighty.

Get out of here with that weak shit.

Didn't realise ignore didn't cover quotes. Oh well...
"A little science distances you from God, but a lot of science brings you nearer to Him." - Louis Pasteur

Munch

"the paper i linked is always right, always always, my daddy was also always right always always unlike yours, and my religion is the only right one always always!"
'Political correctness is fascism pretending to be manners' - George Carlin

Baruch

Technically, one should prove oneself Jewish, before believing any NYC paper ;-)  NYC is more Jewish than Tel Aviv.
Ha’át’íísh baa naniná?
Azee’ Å,a’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
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Don't do that.