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Offline pr126

Re: ‘2030 Agenda’: Latest UN Plan for World Government
« Reply #15 on: March 28, 2018, 10:03:33 AM »
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1.   We, the Heads of State and Government and High Representatives, meeting at the United Nations Headquarters in New York from 25-27 September 2015 as the Organization celebrates its seventieth anniversary, have decided today on new global Sustainable Development Goals.

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We are determined to end poverty and hunger, in all their forms and dimensions, and to ensure that all human beings can fulfill their potential in dignity and equality and in a healthy environment.

Beware of those who determined to build utopias.
It always ends in an awful lot of corpses.

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Re: ‘2030 Agenda’: Latest UN Plan for World Government
« Reply #16 on: March 28, 2018, 12:46:16 PM »
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What defines tyranny in the modern day when people describe every government in the west as imperialistic and tyrannical and the easy as post colonial and power hungry

Good question, words keep changing their meaning.  You meant "East" as post colonial, right?  Words today don't match their classic meanings.

If you have something, and I try to take it away from you, you will object (I am being tyrannical).  If you don't have something, and try to get it, but I try to stop you from getting it, you will object (I am being tyrannical).  Is that a good 21st century definition?  I see this on the personal/family level.

So, if you don't have ACA, but want ACA, and I try to stop it from being passed, then I am the bad guy.  If you have ACA, and like it, and I try to take it away from you, then I am the bad guy.  It isn't just "entitlements" of course, but that is where most people focus.

Nazi Germany is pretty clear .. they don't want France/Britain exploiting colonies, because Germany wants to do that instead.  They don't want Stalin killing all the Kulaks, because they are much more ambitious in terms of who (E of Germany) they want to kill.

Communism is pretty clear too ... they don't want the US exploiting other countries in a post-colonial manner, the USSR and PRC want to do that instead.  They don't want the US liberating USSR and PRC from single party dictatorship, because the party and its leadership are happy as things are.
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Online Shiranu

Re: ‘2030 Agenda’: Latest UN Plan for World Government
« Reply #17 on: March 28, 2018, 01:06:04 PM »
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Beware of those who determined to build utopias.
It always ends in an awful lot of corpses.

I don't think the attempted abolishment of poverty and reducing the number of starving people is "utopia". At best I think that is the bare minimum of what someone with even a basic shred of respect for humanity should aim for, particularly in a civilized society that has the resources to attempt it at the very least within it's own borders.


Or is it the second part you take offense to, that people should be treated as equals and with dignity? If so, I once again refer you to the foundation of Western civilization (humanism)... if that's the part you have a problem with, then once again you are explicitly stating your ideology is contradictory to what Western societies' stands for.

You cant cry at every turn that it is the "other" coming to destroy your civilization when you yourself hold to an ideology that repeatedly wants to run contrary to everything your civilization stands for.
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Online Baruch

Re: ‘2030 Agenda’: Latest UN Plan for World Government
« Reply #18 on: March 28, 2018, 08:11:08 PM »
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I don't think the attempted abolishment of poverty and reducing the number of starving people is "utopia". At best I think that is the bare minimum of what someone with even a basic shred of respect for humanity should aim for, particularly in a civilized society that has the resources to attempt it at the very least within it's own borders.


Or is it the second part you take offense to, that people should be treated as equals and with dignity? If so, I once again refer you to the foundation of Western civilization (humanism)... if that's the part you have a problem with, then once again you are explicitly stating your ideology is contradictory to what Western societies' stands for.

You cant cry at every turn that it is the "other" coming to destroy your civilization when you yourself hold to an ideology that repeatedly wants to run contrary to everything your civilization stands for.

You can abolish wealth, and Robespierre tried.  But you can't abolish poverty ... because you can't abolish poor childhoods or abolish what species we are taking about.  Yes, you are a monk ... everyone in the monastery embraces holy poverty ... you need to also.  And plenty of work, not laying about.  And discipline, lots of that too.

No, people aren't equal, so why should we treat them that way?  Don't believe that Declaration of Independence, the work of traitors.  Certainly doesn't your head explode when you read the deistic "god" part of it?  The English are more sensible about this, having exiled their nut cases here.  No, England has no Statue of Liberty.  They have Britannia.
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Offline Draconic Aiur

Re: ‘2030 Agenda’: Latest UN Plan for World Government
« Reply #19 on: March 28, 2018, 11:10:47 PM »
Sounds like conservative paranoia rubbish to me.

Offline pr126

Re: ‘2030 Agenda’: Latest UN Plan for World Government
« Reply #20 on: March 29, 2018, 04:24:52 AM »
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« Reply #21 on: March 29, 2018, 06:11:55 AM »
The UN, like the League of Nations before it, is a European conspiracy.  Just look at who originally was on the Security Counsel.  But inevitably it became a tool for Third World governments (they are the majority in the general assembly).  And yes, the Third World is coming, has been since 1950 ... like a plague of locusts.  But locusts are kosher.  You just need to eat the immigrants.
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Offline pr126

Re: ‘2030 Agenda’: Latest UN Plan for World Government
« Reply #22 on: March 29, 2018, 06:19:41 AM »
I don’t think the world will sleepwalk into global socialism. Serfdom, in reality.

There will be some resistance.

Too many want to rule the world.
Islam for a start. Then China. Russia. Soros.
Who will be the winner?

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Online Baruch

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« Reply #23 on: March 29, 2018, 06:30:22 AM »
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I don’t think the world will sleepwalk into global socialism. Serfdom, in reality.

There will be some resistance.

Too many want to rule the world.
Islam for a start. Then China. Russia. Soros.
Who will be the winner?

There are no winners that way.  Even without nuclear war, the only way to win, is to not play the game.

Yes, nut jobs, who can't match their socks, want to rule the world.

We have chattel slavery (still, mostly for young teen girls), and plenty of wage and debt slavery.  Debt slavery has been a big thing since 1980.  Enjoy your chains Jacob Marley, you forged them yourself, one link at a time, and they are cumulatively heavy.

On a lighter note, let's remember the historical evidence ...

There is one universal human policy, that of the Huns and Mongols ... we will take your stuff, rape your women, enslave your children ... and kill your men.  Feminism is big on the latter.  There is patriarchy or matriarchy, there is no equality and no peaceful coexistence.
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Offline pr126

Re: ‘2030 Agenda’: Latest UN Plan for World Government
« Reply #24 on: March 29, 2018, 06:40:16 AM »
The moment the second amendment is repealed, your goose is cooked.
Don’t let it happen.
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« Reply #25 on: March 29, 2018, 07:12:00 AM »
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The moment the second amendment is repealed, your goose is cooked.
Don’t let it happen.

They are coming for the bump stocks and large mags ... just in case we have them.  Most do not, but they need to invade every home and business, just to make sure.  Maybe those folks in Las Vegas didn't die in vain, they died for the NWO.

How about China doing England one better ... they now claim to have AI and video cams and face recognition, so that jaywalkers can be automatically sent tickets for their jaywalking.  That will end good!  And here I thought all Asians looked alike.  Who knew?
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Online Shiranu

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« Reply #26 on: March 29, 2018, 07:24:37 AM »
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The moment the second amendment is repealed, your goose is cooked.
Don’t let it happen.

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Re: ‘2030 Agenda’: Latest UN Plan for World Government
« Reply #27 on: March 29, 2018, 07:28:49 AM »
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« Reply #28 on: March 29, 2018, 12:49:06 PM »
Shiranu - I am sure you can tell the lead monk, in the Zen dojo, when he hits you with the keisaku stick in the meditation hall (to make sure you stay awake) that he is violating your civil rights.  Tell the master that you find koan study to be "triggering".

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What people want is libertinism and a free lunch.  Zen dojos don't allow either.  And everyone is almost equal.
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Online Shiranu

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« Reply #29 on: March 29, 2018, 09:15:21 PM »
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What makes the second amendment the last thread that is holding America together, and from whom is it protecting us from?
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