The Liberal Mentality

[Gilgamesh]

That is Libertarian (modern version).  That died in 1865 and 1933.  Ideas aren't human, so they can die more than once.  People seek power and wealth, and they use any means, including government, to obtain it.  So as I have said before, the corrupt nature of humanity means there is no redemption in history.  Maybe in literature however.

I'm not even for full libertarianism. I think anarchism is naive - stupidly naive. But the US government is twice as fat as it should be.

I'm a misanthropist down to the bone. I know there's no redemption for mankind, because we are not as a species far removed enough from beasts. The vast majority do what immediately 'feels' correct. They are slaves to their biology, like any other beast.

[pr126]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BU7XaUjwqSg

[Gilgamesh]

Socialism is good.

Ethno National socialism =]

[Jason78]

Socialism is a tool, just like capitalism.   It's applicable for some problems, but not others. 

You can't build a functioning society with just a hammer in your toolkit.

[pr126]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAJbCVBL88o

[Gilgamesh]

Socialism is a tool, just like capitalism.   It's applicable for some problems, but not others. 

You can't build a functioning society with just a hammer in your toolkit.

Socialist policies, which is what you no-doubt mean, do not a socialism make.

It's a crime that the same word is even used. Because it's not even the case that the more social policies a nation has the closer it inches to socialism.

No, the only thing that creates a socialist state - or socialism - is the government seizing the means of production. That's it. Nothing more. Nothing less.

Therefore, socialism is not a 'tool.' It is a societal system - one that is doomed to produce misery every single time it is practiced.

[pr126]

Like in Venezuela.

[Sal1981]

The Scandinavian countries have social democracies, but they probably should be called regulated market democracies.

[Gilgamesh]

The Scandinavian countries have social democracies, but they probably should be called regulated market democracies.

A social democracy by by definition is capitalist. You probably already know this, but I just want to clear up confusion among anyone here who has any sort of sympathies for socialism:

Socialism and capitalism are antithetical to eachother, and none of the northern european countries are examples of socialism - they're all capitalist.

Examples of socialism are shitholes like venezuela, where government has seized the means of production. Currency controls, price controls, complete control of the economy by the government. That's socialism.

[Baruch]

Socialism is good.

Ethno National socialism =]

What happens in Wakanda, stays in Wakanda.

[Baruch]

Socialism is a tool, just like capitalism.   It's applicable for some problems, but not others. 

You can't build a functioning society with just a hammer in your toolkit.

Yes, you need a sickle with the hammer to make up the whole flag.  Lying is a tool, it is good or bad depending on who you are lying to.

[Baruch]

The Scandinavian countries have social democracies, but they probably should be called regulated market democracies.

Not for much longer .. they will become tribal tyrannies like Zimbabwe.  Only this time with colored Vikings.

[Cavebear]

A real hate-fest going on here!  You might note that liberals and progressives are quick to say when their own do bad things, but Conservatives just circle the wagons in defence...

[Gilgamesh]

A real hate-fest going on here!  You might note that liberals and progressives are quick to say when their own do bad things, but Conservatives just circle the wagons in defence...

Shut the hell up and stop taking 'sides' when neither side has your best interest in mind and in fact are actively working together, against your best interests.

If you hear a criticism of progressives or democrats and your immediate reaction is to assume the one doing the criticising is a conservative or republican, and then mount an attack on those parties; congratulations, you are acting in exactly the manner your lords knew you would, and need you to.

Both parties are full of drooling retards who wave every shitty thing their team does under the rug while blowing out of proportion every shitty thing the enemy team does. They agree on 90% of things and just posture against one another on the remaining 10%, so arguing as to whos worse is a useless endeavor - worse, it's actively counter-productive if you ever want to be free of your chains.

[Baruch]

A real hate-fest going on here!  You might note that liberals and progressives are quick to say when their own do bad things, but Conservatives just circle the wagons in defence...

Liberals are compulsive liars our of one side of their mouths ... Conservatives lie out of the other side of their mouth.  I hate both.