Why is Marxism so Attractive?

[pr126]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6h_mMVwQnAk

[Cavebear]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6h_mMVwQnAk

Because 3/4 of the people expect the other half to support them?

[pr126]

Indoctrination by the academics and supported by the media (opinion shapers).

Politics is becoming the identity. It is personal.

[Cavebear]

Indoctrination by the academics and supported by the media (opinion shapers).

Politics is becoming the identity. It is personal.

I sometimes forget you are serious about this.  My apologies. 

I think Marxism is an ideal situation where there are no 1%ers and everyone is closer to the medium.  I think the experience of the unregulated commons shows how difficult that can be.  I'm fine with the concept.  It's the regulation that gets awkward.

[pr126]

Marxism is a step toward communism. Socialism is communism lite.

See Venezuela.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0SP2cXoeOxY

[GSOgymrat]

It is easy to see why Marxism is attractive. When there are obvious disparities in wealth and power it offends people's sense of fairness. Marxism promises to balance the scales, to have equality of outcome. The problem is to balance the scales you have to restrict people's liberty. On the other end, you have capitalism promising everyone liberty but there will be a disparity of outcome since all people are not created equal or start the game of life with the same opportunities. In my opinion, both ideologies are flawed, they both have unrealistic views of human behavior, and the best approach is to focus on outcomes, not ideological consistency.

[Atheon]

Thankfully, nobody is advocating Marxism in the West.

[Cavebear]

Thankfully, nobody is advocating Marxism in the West.

You mean "real" Marxisn or the Russo-Chinese versions of semi-communist dictatorships?

[Munch]

Thankfully, nobody is advocating Marxism in the West.

I dunno, I think certain collage professors adhere to it and try and get students into the beginnings of its thought process, plant the seed so to speak.

[Munch]

It is easy to see why Marxism is attractive. When there are obvious disparities in wealth and power it offends people's sense of fairness. Marxism promises to balance the scales, to have equality of outcome. The problem is to balance the scales you have to restrict people's liberty. On the other end, you have capitalism promising everyone liberty but there will be a disparity of outcome since all people are not created equal or start the game of life with the same opportunities. In my opinion, both ideologies are flawed, they both have unrealistic views of human behavior, and the best approach is to focus on outcomes, not ideological consistency.

its very much the other end of the scale, which conservative and liberal values fall into, and honestly if you only follow one political ideology all the time, without question, you run the risk of going down a rabbithole of that sides extremist views. This is why you should always take two steps back in what your following and wonder or question it, ask 'isn't this enough?'

[Cavebear]

its very much the other end of the scale, which conservative and liberal values fall into, and honestly if you only follow one political ideology all the time, without question, you run the risk of going down a rabbithole of that sides extremist views. This is why you should always take two steps back in what your following and wonder or question it, ask 'isn't this enough?'

I look at life and ask for more.

[Shiranu]

Marxism is a step toward communism. Socialism is communism lite.

See Venezuela.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0SP2cXoeOxY

Actually has more to do with the rampant corruption (spoiler alert; not exclusive to "communism") and the fact that they were a banana republic, but let's not let facts get in the way.

[Baruch]

Thankfully, nobody is advocating Marxism in the West.

Democrats are 1960s campus communists, grown old in the tooth.

[Unbeliever]

Don't you mean "long in the tooth"?

[Baruch]

I dunno, I think certain collage professors adhere to it and try and get students into the beginnings of its thought process, plant the seed so to speak.

The purpose of a DI in boot camp, is to break you down, and rebuild you in the image of the military.  Campus professors do the same ... to remake you into a 1960s communist like they once were (see 1968 Paris riots/coup).  It is all so existential, oui?