Author Topic: Moderate secular Turkey?  (Read 1597 times)

Offline pr126

Re: Moderate secular Turkey?
« Reply #15 on: January 27, 2018, 08:34:36 AM »
No. I think it is time for a change.
NATO was created for the Soviet threat that no longer exist.

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I think it will be used against its own citizens. To put down a civil revolt?
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Offline Cavebear

Re: Moderate secular Turkey?
« Reply #16 on: January 27, 2018, 09:07:31 AM »
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No. I think it is time for a change.
NATO was created for the Soviet threat that no longer exist.

Germany is planning an You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login.
I think it will be used against its own citizens. To put down a civil revolt?

Betcha the Russians are aiming at Eastern Europe again...  NATO has reasons to exist.
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Offline SGOS

Re: Moderate secular Turkey?
« Reply #17 on: January 27, 2018, 09:26:28 AM »
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And now Turkey is attacking the Kurdish armed forces. and becoming more accepting of Islamists Jihadists.  Not exactly NATO material...
I met a university professor riding a recumbent on a bike path one time.  I always stop these guys because I also rode a recumbent, although I was on my mountain bike at the time.  He had taken his recumbent from Greece to Turkey the year before, and invited me to accompany him on his repeat adventure to Turkey the next summer.  I knew little about Turkey at the time, and expressed concern about how Americans might be received there.  His response was that the US was on very good terms with Turkey at that time, because Turkey was trying to join NATO, and America was one of the few countries supporting them.  While that allayed my concerns, I declined, although it did seem like an interesting trip.

I've had high hopes for Turkey since then, but relations are being strained now under Erdogan, and relations with a country don't necessarily determine relations between people, but the government does come into play.  How many Turks would want to visit America under our current government with the way Trump has brought the bigots and phobes out of the woodwork?  They would be at risk for a bad experience, I would think.
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Offline Baruch

Re: Moderate secular Turkey?
« Reply #18 on: January 27, 2018, 09:55:04 AM »
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Betcha the Russians are aiming at Eastern Europe again...  NATO has reasons to exist.

Russians are always paranoid.  They have good reason to be.  Nato since 1991 has been a war crime.

I took my daughter, to the opening of the local Turkish Relations center ... the only opportunity she might have to interact with the Middle East.  Other than eating at an Egyptian restaurant.  I had her scarf her hair, just for that occasion.  I wore my Jihadi beard ;-)
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Offline Cavebear

Re: Moderate secular Turkey?
« Reply #19 on: January 27, 2018, 11:11:07 AM »
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Russians are always paranoid.  They have good reason to be.  Nato since 1991 has been a war crime.

I took my daughter, to the opening of the local Turkish Relations center ... the only opportunity she might have to interact with the Middle East.  Other than eating at an Egyptian restaurant.  I had her scarf her hair, just for that occasion.  I wore my Jihadi beard ;-)

Good thing the local customs didn't demand your daughter go topless...  How would you have felt about THAT?
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Offline Baruch

Re: Moderate secular Turkey?
« Reply #20 on: January 27, 2018, 04:14:34 PM »
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Good thing the local customs didn't demand your daughter go topless...  How would you have felt about THAT?

I am far more liberated than any of you realize.  At a genuine Luao, we could have both been topless.  But pig and poi would have been ... unattractive to us.  Also don't smoke, if you are wearing a grass skirt!
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Offline Cavebear

Re: Moderate secular Turkey?
« Reply #21 on: February 02, 2018, 01:45:37 PM »
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I am far more liberated than any of you realize.  At a genuine Luao, we could have both been topless.  But pig and poi would have been ... unattractive to us.  Also don't smoke, if you are wearing a grass skirt!

There was a young lady named Hall,
Wore a newspaper dress to a ball.
The dress caught on fire
And burned her entire
Front page, sport section, and all.
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Offline The Skeletal Atheist

Re: Moderate secular Turkey?
« Reply #22 on: February 06, 2018, 07:30:26 PM »
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They don’t kill because they are Christians. They kill because they are savages. Their IQ is very low.
There are also no laws. It is the law of the jungle, literally.
But how do we know that they are Christians? Is that what the faith teaches?

Exodus 22:18

β€œThou shalt not suffer a witch to live”

Maybe you can look it up next time before you look like a fucking moron.
Some people need to be beaten with a smart stick.

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Offline Cavebear

Re: Moderate secular Turkey?
« Reply #23 on: February 06, 2018, 07:37:57 PM »
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Exodus 22:18

β€œThou shalt not suffer a witch to live”

Maybe you can look it up next time before you look like a fucking moron.

PR lives in his own strange world.  Your sarc probably just went right (well, "left") over his head, LOL!
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Offline Baruch

Re: Moderate secular Turkey?
« Reply #24 on: February 06, 2018, 11:15:29 PM »
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Exodus 22:18

β€œThou shalt not suffer a witch to live”

Maybe you can look it up next time before you look like a fucking moron.

Fundie Christians think they are Jewish ... Jews know better, and most are past the Levitical laws.
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Offline Cavebear

Re: Moderate secular Turkey?
« Reply #25 on: February 06, 2018, 11:41:46 PM »
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Fundie Christians think they are Jewish ... Jews know better, and most are past the Levitical laws.

I must smile.  Even the "alleged" Jesus would have considered himself "Jewish'.
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Offline Baruch

Re: Moderate secular Turkey?
« Reply #26 on: February 07, 2018, 12:57:25 PM »
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I must smile.  Even the "alleged" Jesus would have considered himself "Jewish'.

So would Paul.  But Constantine originated in Illyria.
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Offline Cavebear

Re: Moderate secular Turkey?
« Reply #27 on: February 09, 2018, 01:49:40 AM »
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So would Paul.  But Constantine originated in Illyria.

The alleged disciples were all jewish.  Constantine, on the other hand, saw that Christians were a source of support to his throne.  I suspect the "flaming cross in the sky" was just a political scheme.
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Offline Baruch

Re: Moderate secular Turkey?
« Reply #28 on: February 09, 2018, 07:35:31 AM »
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The alleged disciples were all jewish.  Constantine, on the other hand, saw that Christians were a source of support to his throne.  I suspect the "flaming cross in the sky" was just a political scheme.
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Offline AllPurposeAtheist

Re: Moderate secular Turkey?
« Reply #29 on: February 09, 2018, 04:49:36 PM »
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Maybe you can look it up next time before you look like a fucking moron.
He's well beyond merely LOOKING like a fucking moron.. He's proven beyond any reasonable doubt.... oh..you know..
All hail my new signature!

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