Eric Sevareid

[SGOS]

I seldom agreed with Buckley.  Erudite speech does not equate to thoughtful conclusions. 

Very true.  Knowledge, intelligence, and presentation, require thought, but to be thoughtful requires reason.  Reason was not Buckley's oratory device.  His device was arrogance.

[Cavebear]

Very true.  Knowledge, intelligence, and presentation, require thought, but to be thoughtful requires reason.  Reason was not Buckley's oratory device.  His device was arrogance.

And eruditely put!  I recall the debate between Buckley and Gore Vidal.  Vidal was right, but lost the debate because Buckley was just so snarkily good at it.

[SGOS]

And eruditely put!  I recall the debate between Buckley and Gore Vidal.  Vidal was right, but lost the debate because Buckley was just so snarkily good at it.

One of his debate strategies was to occasionally laugh at his opponent like an indulgent parent of a 4 year old, and he would rebut with a wordy dialog accompanied by a smarmy smile that drew attention away from his reasoning.  His strategies were much more convincing than his logic, especially for those who don't pay close attention to what is actually being said. 

[Cavebear]

One of his debate strategies was to occasionally laugh at his opponent like an indulgent parent of a 4 year old, and he would rebut with a wordy dialog accompanied by a smarmy smile that drew attention away from his reasoning.  His strategies were much more convincing than his logic, especially for those who don't pay close attention to what is actually being said.

Nailed it!  In transcripts, he lost most arguments.  In rhetoric, he won. 

[Baruch]

What I got out of college was a little knowledge of a lot of subjects, and a lot of knowledge of a few.  It was deliberate.  I love knowing something of all things.  And I learned a lot about people who were very different from me.  My BS in Political Science and my minor in history was not the most important thing I learned.  I could easily have gone on to a PhD in either.  But I didn't see a value in that.

Duh!  We can hope for that.  And not a little knowledge of a few, and no knowledge of a lot.  And yes, ultimately people are the most interesting and annoying subject matter.

[Cavebear]

Duh!  We can hope for that.  And not a little knowledge of a few, and no knowledge of a lot.  And yes, ultimately people are the most interesting and annoying subject matter.

Is THAT why you are here?

[Baruch]

And eruditely put!  I recall the debate between Buckley and Gore Vidal.  Vidal was right, but lost the debate because Buckley was just so snarkily good at it.

Vidal was way ahead of his time.

[Baruch]

Is THAT why you are here?

Mostly for psychology and anthropology.  Not psychotherapy (after the first two years of self-psychotherapy, I am cured like a the ham I am).

[Cavebear]

Mostly for psychology and anthropology.  Not psychotherapy (after the first two years of self-psychotherapy, I am cured like a the ham I am).

I always thought you were here for some sort of religious penance.  50,000 Hail Mary's, sleeping on a stone bed, and trying to convert atheists (a Sisyphean endeavor).

LOL!

[Baruch]

I always thought you were here for some sort of religious penance.  50,000 Hail Mary's, sleeping on a stone bed, and trying to convert atheists (a Sisyphean endeavor).

LOL!

See, I made you laugh.  We are on track (laugh track that is).

[Cavebear]

See, I made you laugh.  We are on track (laugh track that is).

I was laughing AT you...

[Baruch]

I was laughing AT you...

But I don't mind.  I was taught "egoless" programming.

[Cavebear]

But I don't mind.  I was taught "egoless" programming.

That's nice...