Author Topic: News from Iran  (Read 185 times)

Offline Shiranu

Re: News from Iran
« Reply #15 on: January 01, 2018, 07:28:53 PM »
hiranu is right that there was a time their country was progressing into something more educated and coming out of the dark ages, but then it regressed due to takeover from those in nearby regions.

I think Baruch mostly addressed this, but the multiple over-throws of their democracy were led first by England to protect the Anglo-Persian Oil Company (now British Petrol), and then by the United States first for England's interests and then to combat the communists. Just look up Mossadegh, the Shah, the Ayatollah...

Persian Islam (Shia) is extremely different from their neighbours in hierarchy and practice; their neighbours hate them, outside of a few pockets like Lebanon. So we cant blame the Saudis or whoever... this is strictly a Western created theocracy.

This can also be seen in Afghanistan; it was relatively democratized and secular before we funded religious radicals to fight the communists. It's easy to blame Islam for the extremism in the Middle East, but it's not so easy to look at who funded the extremism, who gave them power in the first place. When you look at the history of Islam, before we and the Saudi's funded radicalism, the Middle East was actually on track to be very progressive.
« Last Edit: January 01, 2018, 08:08:35 PM by Shiranu »
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Offline Baruch

Re: News from Iran
« Reply #16 on: January 07, 2018, 12:57:04 PM »
Relevant but not limited to Iran situation.

Amadinajad has been arrested for inciting riots.  So is he a CIA stooge too?

Gen Mattis, SecDef in recent interview:

While speaking with a gaggle of reporters this afternoon, Mattis was asked what his biggest military concern of 2018 was.

His response:

“I don’t have concerns. I create them”

The quote follows in a long tradition of magnificent Mattis quotes, including his answer to what keeps him awake at night:

“Nothing. I Keep Other People Awake At Night.”

This is why a coward like Dick Cheney isn't so scary, but this guy is.  Read Sun Tzu.  You want all opponents to shit their pants, just thinking of you.  And if necessary, you get to kill your opponent, effectively and efficiently ... but it is far better to defeat your opponent, without actual fighting.