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Online Baruch

Re: White left
« Reply #30 on: January 02, 2018, 06:40:28 PM »
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"Its okay to be white left"

Only if it means being light skinned and a southpaw ;-)
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Offline PickelledEggs

Re: White left
« Reply #31 on: January 02, 2018, 08:34:08 PM »
That is the first video in a LONG time that I clicked on from pr. God damned cute asian chick clickbait thumbnail
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Re: White left
« Reply #32 on: January 02, 2018, 08:48:56 PM »
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"Its okay to be white left"

No, it's not.

Offline Shiranu

Re: White left
« Reply #33 on: January 03, 2018, 12:18:08 AM »
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No, it's not.

"Damn the left for being so closed minded and intolerant! I'm nothing like them! It's okay to have a different opinion, so long as it's an opinion I like!"
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Offline pr126

Re: White left
« Reply #34 on: January 03, 2018, 12:48:41 AM »
Why is the left (Marxist/socialist) ideology is better than anything else?


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Offline Shiranu

Re: White left
« Reply #35 on: January 03, 2018, 01:20:38 AM »
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Why is the left (Marxist/socialist) ideology is better than anything else?




Socialism is, simply, better because it works; you look at the countries with the highest standards of living, highest level of happiness, highest wealth... and they all lean closer to the socialism spectrum than capitalism/crony capitalism spectrum. This is an unarguable fact. Let's look at the top countries by wealth...

Switzerland, Australia, Belgium, Italy, Japan, France, UK, Netherlands, Canda, Taiwan, South Korea, Spain, United States (take into account the size of our economy compared to every one else's though), Germany, Sweden, China (again, sheer size)... all of these countries, even the United States and China to an extent, heavily emphasize socialism over capitalism.

Now lets look at the happiest countries in the world, where socialism's benefits are even more pronounced...

Norway, Denmark, Iceland, Switzerland, Finland, Netherlands, Canada, New Zealand, Australia, Sweden... it's not until the 20s that you start to see countries that lean less on socialism (though are still rather socialized).

Finally, let's look at standard of living... Norway, Australia, Switzerland, Germany, Denmark, Singapore, Netherlands, Ireland, Iceland, Canada, United States, Hong Kong, New Zealand, Sweden, Lichtenstein, UK... again, all heavily socialized countries.

If you care about happiness, wealth, and quality of life... it is simply inarguable that leaning closer to socialism rather than closer to capitalism does the most good for the most people. Now, perhaps you have an entirely different standard of what makes a country great, in which case that might not work for you, but for most people those three things are the most important things.
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Offline pr126

Re: White left
« Reply #36 on: January 03, 2018, 01:49:30 AM »
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Finally, let's look at standard of living... Norway, Australia, Switzerland, Germany, Denmark, Singapore, Netherlands, Ireland, Iceland, Canada, United States, Hong Kong, New Zealand, Sweden, Lichtenstein, UK... again, all heavily socialized countries.


So... What happened in Venezuela?
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Offline Shiranu

Re: White left
« Reply #37 on: January 03, 2018, 02:16:56 AM »
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So... What happened in Venezuela?



Alot of things... much of them involving internal corruption and external factors. I'm not sure what that has to do with the price of tea in China.
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Offline pr126

Re: White left
« Reply #38 on: January 03, 2018, 02:20:40 AM »
What external factors?
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Offline PickelledEggs

Re: White left
« Reply #39 on: January 03, 2018, 02:43:37 AM »
The person that whines the most here is pr. he whines more than the people he says are the problem whines. Anyone else see the lack of self awareness here? I know I said this before and many, many people seconded it, but I just want to see if I can drill it in his head that he is being beyond hypocritical.... it probably won't happen, but Im an optimist.
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Offline PickelledEggs

Re: White left
« Reply #40 on: January 03, 2018, 02:44:00 AM »
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What external factors?
External factors, like your mom.
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Offline PickelledEggs

Re: White left
« Reply #41 on: January 03, 2018, 02:44:26 AM »
I'm sorry. That last one I posted was hilarious lololol
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Offline Shiranu

Re: White left
« Reply #42 on: January 03, 2018, 03:24:17 AM »
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What external factors?

The global decrease in price of oil, which is not good for a banana republic whoms one export is oil. Another issue was drought, which crippled their power grid that ran on... surprise surprise... water (it's main source of power was hydroelectric, but when the lakes and rivers dry up that isn't going to work).

Internally there were a lot of factors, but there are two that really doomed their system; Chavas Populism and corruption. The first one is what we consider "socialist" (Chavas buying a fridge for "everyone" [only people who voted for him] from China & extremely expensive short-term policies that again mostly benefited his constituents rather than society as a whole) and then the corruption of the system when qualified officials were replaced by people who kissed up to Chavas.


I would argue any policy that only benefits people who support you, like Chavas enacted, is not socialism since it does not serve the interests of society, but rather corrupt favoritism and increasing ideological divide. Compare his form of socialism to what we have in the countries listed above; socialism that benefits all members of society... be they left, right, black, white, gay, straight, male, female and what ever other either/or you want to put down. That is socialism, and that is what you "oppose" (though I really doubt you do, I think you just hear the word and are so set in your ways to realise that it means something other than what you think it does).

Venezuela is nothing short of being just another example of how corruption and a populist candidate who runs on hatred of the other rather than  love for his people will destroy a country. Ironically, the people that brought Venezuela down are of the same vein as the people you like; Trump, Le Pen, et. al. who are running purely on "populist", hateful ideologies... and in Trump's case, installing corrupt leaches over qualified people for positions of power and legalizing wealth redistribution to the top and/or legalizing bribery.

You just cant see the forest from the trees.
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Offline pr126

Re: White left
« Reply #43 on: January 03, 2018, 03:46:31 AM »
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External factors, like your mom.
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I'm sorry. That last one I posted was hilarious lololol

Yeah, funny as hell.

Btw, my mom died before you were born.
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Offline PickelledEggs

Re: White left
« Reply #44 on: January 03, 2018, 03:47:45 AM »
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Why is the left (Marxist/socialist) ideology is better than anything else?



Gonna save this meme so I can reply to pretty much every single one of your posts that you have ever made
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