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Terror attack in Australia
« on: December 22, 2017, 09:31:39 AM »
Yesterday a guy plowed through a bunch of Australian who were Christmas shopping. An afghani refugee who cried he did it becuase of the treatment of Muslims throughout the world. Also a history of mental illnesses. The Aussie police is saying it’s not terrorism becuase they don’t have a link to a terrorist group. Say what you want, but a guy ramming a bunch of people peacefully shopping. Is terrorism to me.

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Offline pr126

Re: Terror attack in Australia
« Reply #1 on: December 22, 2017, 10:15:49 AM »
It is just part of daily life for the unbeliever.
Get used to it. There will be more to come - anytime, anywhere.

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Of course, we do have an answer to all this. Flowers, candles, teddy bears, and the usual slogan:

#NOTALLMUSLIMS.

Then forget about it until the next time. Unless a relative is maimed or dead.



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Offline Shiranu

Re: Terror attack in Australia
« Reply #2 on: December 22, 2017, 03:29:03 PM »
Since you are the Islam expert pr, are "True Muslims" Qu'ranicly allowed to be drug addicts?
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Offline Baruch

Re: Terror attack in Australia
« Reply #3 on: December 22, 2017, 03:44:46 PM »
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Since you are the Islam expert pr, are "True Muslims" Qu'ranicly allowed to be drug addicts?

It isn't that ... there are no true Scotsmen ... but that there are no true humans.  Let everyone out of jail, let people do anything they want.  Freedom!
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Re: Terror attack in Australia
« Reply #4 on: December 22, 2017, 06:25:29 PM »
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Since you are the Islam expert pr, are "True Muslims" Qu'ranicly allowed to be drug addicts?

Allah has a word for these so called moderate muslims he calls them Munafiqs (hypocrites).

As for drugs perhaps you should read this about Ayatollah Khamanei maybe he knows something about Islam.
Iranian leadership addicted to opium?
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Offline Shiranu

Re: Terror attack in Australia
« Reply #5 on: December 22, 2017, 06:32:31 PM »
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Allah has a word for these so called moderate muslims he calls them Munafiqs (hypocrites).

As for drugs perhaps you should read this about Ayatollah Khamanei maybe he knows something about Islam.
Iranian leadership addicted to opium?
Politics in ’The Islamic Republic of Heroin’- You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login



I'm not asking if Muslims are addicted to drugs (spoiler alert; they are), I'm asking if you can be a "True Muslim" if you are a drug addict, since the Qu'ran is very explicit about drugs/alcohol being the work of the devil and multiple Hadiths stating that anyone who consumes these things will be barred entry into Jannah.

I'm well aware of the opium problem in the Middle East. The point I am making is that if we are going to say Islam is the root cause of this violence, because they are so devoutly Muslim, then we need to examine just how "devoutly Muslim" they actually are. And a devout Muslim would never be addicted to drugs. They are no more "devout Muslims" than Westborough are "devout" followers of Christ's teachings, or the Buddhists who murder and commit genocide against the Rohinga are devout Buddhists.

Likewise this is yet again ignoring the reasons the actual person gave, and saying that "you" (pr) know what REALLY is going on in their head, and not the person themselves. The inherent folly there, besides the fact that you have zero knowledge of what's really in their head, is that the dude is a drug addict; trying to rationalize his thoughts is moronic as it is.
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Offline Baruch

Re: Terror attack in Australia
« Reply #6 on: December 22, 2017, 06:42:02 PM »
Just like any other drug crazed hoodlum.  His skin, his culture, his neighborhood might not be as relevant as his drug habit.  But are those things unrelated?
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Offline Shiranu

Re: Terror attack in Australia
« Reply #7 on: December 22, 2017, 06:46:43 PM »
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Just like any other drug crazed hoodlum.  His skin, his culture, his neighborhood might not be as relevant as his drug habit.  But are those things unrelated?

I don't know Australia socio-economics, but I would assume they follow the same trend as as America's; poorer groups tend to have higher rates of drug use, particularly hard drug use, than richer groups. Immigrant and ethnic minorities tend to have a higher rate of being impoverished, so the odds of an immigrant being a drug user is higher than a native Australian.

Culture is relevant, but not in a statement about the culture's values but rather the fact that minority cultures tend to be lower-class citizens than majority cultures.
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Offline Baruch

Re: Terror attack in Australia
« Reply #8 on: December 22, 2017, 06:55:01 PM »
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I don't know Australia socio-economics, but I would assume they follow the same trend as as America's; poorer groups tend to have higher rates of drug use, particularly hard drug use, than richer groups. Immigrant and ethnic minorities tend to have a higher rate of being impoverished, so the odds of an immigrant being a drug user is higher than a native Australian.

Culture is relevant, but not in a statement about the culture's values but rather the fact that minority cultures tend to be lower-class citizens than majority cultures.

Yep life is unfair.  Upper class dudes use more expensive drugs, and use banks to rob people, instead of rob banks.
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Offline pr126

Re: Terror attack in Australia
« Reply #9 on: December 22, 2017, 11:31:56 PM »
Yes, the cause for the 14 centuries old jihad (religious war) is drugs, socio-economics, disenfranchisement, oppression, but never ever Islam.

Because Islam can never be the cause. Never. Everybody knows that.

The perpetrators are not real Muslims. The Quran forbids the killing of innocents.
Islam is peace.

The Crusades, the Inquisition the witch burnings are of course can be attributed to Christianity, and not to drugs, socio-economics, disenfranchisement, or oppression.

Never forget the Crusades!








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Offline Baruch

Re: Terror attack in Australia
« Reply #10 on: December 22, 2017, 11:48:03 PM »
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Yes, the cause for the 14 centuries old jihad (religious war) is drugs, socio-economics, disenfranchisement, oppression, but never ever Islam.

Because Islam can never be the cause. Never. Everybody knows that.

The perpetrators are not real Muslims. The Quran forbids the killing of innocents.
Islam is peace.

The Crusades, the Inquisition the witch burnings are of course can be attributed to Christianity, and not to drugs, socio-economics, disenfranchisement, or oppression.

Never forget the Crusades!

Remember, there is never bad karma is you oppress, rob or murder Jews.  Gandhi said so.
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Offline Shiranu

Re: Terror attack in Australia
« Reply #11 on: December 22, 2017, 11:50:16 PM »
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Yes, the cause for the 14 centuries old jihad (religious war) is drugs, socio-economics, disenfranchisement, oppression, but never ever Islam.

You yourself say all the time Islam is politics, so which is it; is it political (secular), or is it religious (spiritual)?

No one here is saying Islam doesn't have a role, but what people are saying is that just because something is done in the name of Islam does not mean that it is therefor 100% Islam's fault and we have to ignore any and every other possible influence, particularly when the perpetrator themselves give the reason they did the act and it isn't Islam.

It is, again, like saying the West Borough Baptists who are horrible human beings in the name of Christianity are only horrible human beings because Christianity is horrible, or more like-for-like that Buddhists who are, arguably, killing Muslims in the name of Buddhism therefor are making a statement about Buddhism. The reality is infinitely more nuanced than that, and by ignoring that nuance you are making sure no actual progress can be made. Or in even worse situations, you actively are involved in promoting regressive ideological thought that makes the situation even worse.

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Because Islam can never be the cause. Never. Everybody knows that.

Islam can be a cause, if not even the primary cause. 

Even I said that, so who are you arguing against? Nothing you said is actually arguing against what anyone here believes, only arguing against what you think people believe. And that is why no one takes you seriously anymore.

I can only guess, but my guess is because you don't actually have any substance behind your fear. You can only repeat the same thing over and over, even when people agree with you, because you don't actually have any depth behind what you are saying.

What are your solutions? What is your answer to the problem? Do you have any, or are you sitting in the corner screeching hysterically? We get it, the Muslims are scary... now back it up, and propose solutions.
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Offline Baruch

Re: Terror attack in Australia
« Reply #12 on: December 22, 2017, 11:55:02 PM »
Pr126 solution, is to hide under the bed (it is an age thing).

A real Britain would reconquer the 3rd world, and send recent immigrants back their homes, to act as quisling administrators for the Queen.
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Offline pr126

Re: Terror attack in Australia
« Reply #13 on: December 23, 2017, 12:00:30 AM »
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What are your solutions? What is your answer to the problem? Do you have any, or are you sitting in the corner screeching hysterically? We get it, the Muslims are scary... now back it up, and propose solutions.

How many of our "elected" leaders in charge are offering ANY solutions? All? Some? None?








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Offline Baruch

Re: Terror attack in Australia
« Reply #14 on: December 23, 2017, 12:10:53 AM »
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How many of our "elected" leaders in charge are offering ANY solutions? All? Some? None?

They are all German agents.
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