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Started by Baruch, December 12, 2017, 07:07:54 PM

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Baruch

It is not enough to empower. One must empower for a noble purpose. The only noble purpose yet proposed is servant leadership.

The corruption of this is rulers waiting to be served.

And empower all, not just the few. A majority empowered to be servant leaders, nay all … would be a world unrecognizable to us.
Ha’át’íísh baa naniná?
Azee’ Å,a’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
What are you doing?
Are you taking any medications?
Don't do that.

Mike Cl

Quote from: Baruch on December 12, 2017, 07:07:54 PM
It is not enough to empower. One must empower for a noble purpose. The only noble purpose yet proposed is servant leadership.

The corruption of this is rulers waiting to be served.

And empower all, not just the few. A majority empowered to be servant leaders, nay all … would be a world unrecognizable to us.
I very much agree with that thought and conclusion.

But where is the corporate profit in that???
Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?<br />Then he is not omnipotent,<br />Is he able but not willing?<br />Then whence cometh evil?<br />Is he neither able or willing?<br />Then why call him god?

Baruch

Quote from: Mike Cl on December 12, 2017, 08:26:09 PM
I very much agree with that thought and conclusion.

But where is the corporate profit in that???

No politico is a public servant, they are public rulers.  And that is why history sucks.
Ha’át’íísh baa naniná?
Azee’ Å,a’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
What are you doing?
Are you taking any medications?
Don't do that.

Mike Cl

Quote from: Baruch on December 13, 2017, 06:30:13 AM
No politico is a public servant, they are public rulers.  And that is why history sucks.
I love it when they pound each other on the back and call each other 'public servants', or label what they do as 'public service'.  Newspeak was alive and well a long time ago.
Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?<br />Then he is not omnipotent,<br />Is he able but not willing?<br />Then whence cometh evil?<br />Is he neither able or willing?<br />Then why call him god?

Cavebear

Quote from: Mike Cl on December 13, 2017, 08:50:47 AM
I love it when they pound each other on the back and call each other 'public servants', or label what they do as 'public service'.  Newspeak was alive and well a long time ago.

Many politicians are dedicated to power and staying in power (as in "You'll only pry my body out of this chair when I'm dead"), but not all are.  Some leave willingly. 
Atheist born, atheist bred.  And when I die, atheist dead!

Baruch

Quote from: Cavebear on December 15, 2017, 02:24:56 AM
Many politicians are dedicated to power and staying in power (as in "You'll only pry my body out of this chair when I'm dead"), but not all are.  Some leave willingly.

Al Franken?  I give him credit for that, though not for being a Democrat.  Not enough R-scum leave office willingly.
Ha’át’íísh baa naniná?
Azee’ Å,a’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
What are you doing?
Are you taking any medications?
Don't do that.

Cavebear

Quote from: Baruch on December 15, 2017, 05:31:16 AM
Al Franken?  I give him credit for that, though not for being a Democrat.  Not enough R-scum leave office willingly.

I'm sad to say there ARE differences between Democrats and Republicans. 

When party members ethically or morally fail, Republicans circle the wagons and defend their own to death.  Democrats shun the failures among them.
Atheist born, atheist bred.  And when I die, atheist dead!

Baruch

Quote from: Cavebear on December 18, 2017, 06:06:42 AM
I'm sad to say there ARE differences between Democrats and Republicans. 

When party members ethically or morally fail, Republicans circle the wagons and defend their own to death.  Democrats shun the failures among them.

That is because the D party used to be the R party .... aka New England Puritans.  Do they hand out red A's to adulterers in a hypocritical manner? (rhetorical question).  That is why the DNC is having heresy trials ... to purge all the Bernie-bro heretics.
Ha’át’íísh baa naniná?
Azee’ Å,a’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
What are you doing?
Are you taking any medications?
Don't do that.

Cavebear

Quote from: Baruch on December 18, 2017, 06:40:18 AM
That is because the D party used to be the R party .... aka New England Puritans.  Do they hand out red A's to adulterers in a hypocritical manner? (rhetorical question).  That is why the DNC is having heresy trials ... to purge all the Bernie-bro heretics.

Please...  You are talking to a Political Science Major with a Minor in American/World History and a lifelong interest in the subject.  I sort of know that stuff. 

I know the Republicans of today are the Southern Democrats of the 1960s until Nixon seduced them.  I know the Democrats of today are the Republicans of yesteryear and the remnants of the Progressive Party of La Follatte. 

I wrote my senior case study comparing the Goldwater takeover of the Republican Party in 1964 to the McGovern takeover of the Democratic Party in 1972, showing how similar they were and how they were doomed to fail.

Don't bother with me there.
Atheist born, atheist bred.  And when I die, atheist dead!

Baruch

So which winning Presidential election campaign did you manage, sport?  So much air, so little dirigible.

Progressive Party - yes, that was McGovern and HH ... and later Bernie.  We haven't seen actual Progressives (not the faux SJW kind) since 1992 (when the Clinton Mafia took over).  Republican Progressives went out of fashion with Lindsay leaving the Rs for the Ds in 1971.  Powell Memo?
Ha’át’íísh baa naniná?
Azee’ Å,a’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
What are you doing?
Are you taking any medications?
Don't do that.

Cavebear

Quote from: Baruch on December 18, 2017, 10:41:58 PM
So which winning Presidential election campaign did you manage, sport?  So much air, so little dirigible.

Progressive Party - yes, that was McGovern and HH ... and later Bernie.  We haven't seen actual Progressives (not the faux SJW kind) since 1992 (when the Clinton Mafia took over).  Republican Progressives went out of fashion with Lindsay leaving the Rs for the Ds in 1971.  Powell Memo?

"Zepplin (dirigable)"  balloon coated with iron aluminum oxide (modernly called "solid rocket fuel").

When you use the nonsensical term "Clinton Mafia", I stop listening.  I don't refer to Bush Mafia or even Trump Mafia.
Atheist born, atheist bred.  And when I die, atheist dead!

Baruch

Quote from: Cavebear on December 23, 2017, 05:58:08 AM
"Zepplin (dirigable)"  balloon coated with iron aluminum oxide (modernly called "solid rocket fuel").

When you use the nonsensical term "Clinton Mafia", I stop listening.  I don't refer to Bush Mafia or even Trump Mafia.

Clearly you are Dark State.  You don't like illumination, nor reflective materials.  Too easy to shoot you down.
Ha’át’íísh baa naniná?
Azee’ Å,a’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
What are you doing?
Are you taking any medications?
Don't do that.

Cavebear

Quote from: Baruch on December 23, 2017, 07:00:24 AM
Clearly you are Dark State.  You don't like illumination, nor reflective materials.  Too easy to shoot you down.

I am the bright side of Government.  The part that makes sure our water is drinkable, food is safely edible, and roads don't have sinkholes.  Etc...
Atheist born, atheist bred.  And when I die, atheist dead!

Baruch

Quote from: Cavebear on December 23, 2017, 10:17:27 AM
I am the bright side of Government.  The part that makes sure our water is drinkable, food is safely edible, and roads don't have sinkholes.  Etc...

Toward the end of your service, you must have been as lonely as the Maytag repairman ;-(  That isn't what people want now, they are feral, not domesticated.
Ha’át’íísh baa naniná?
Azee’ Å,a’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
What are you doing?
Are you taking any medications?
Don't do that.

Cavebear

Quote from: Baruch on December 23, 2017, 11:26:17 AM
Toward the end of your service, you must have been as lonely as the Maytag repairman ;-(  That isn't what people want now, they are feral, not domesticated.

I told Management I would be leaving in Feb 2006 in Feb 2005.  I got to choose and trsin my own successor.  I left the last day the only person in the office.  I turned out the lights, locked the door, and drove off into the sunset.  I was eventually replaced with 3 full time employees and they couldn't keep up the program.

I TOLD them it required more people and smarts...  I will die smiling.
Atheist born, atheist bred.  And when I die, atheist dead!