Author Topic: Proofs of God  (Read 201 times)

Offline sweetto (OP)

Proofs of God
« on: December 06, 2017, 06:54:53 PM »
Best explanation about Allah(God) existence with evidences and proofs 


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Online Munch

Re: Proofs of God
« Reply #1 on: December 06, 2017, 07:33:52 PM »
wooooooow, that is such a fresh take on it, this is so new.

Offline SGOS

Re: Proofs of God
« Reply #2 on: December 06, 2017, 08:02:39 PM »
I wonder.  What do you suppose is the most commonly used fallacy as proof of God?

Online Baruch

Re: Proofs of God
« Reply #3 on: December 06, 2017, 08:41:44 PM »
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Online Munch

Re: Proofs of God
« Reply #4 on: December 06, 2017, 08:47:33 PM »
I wonder.  What do you suppose is the most commonly used fallacy as proof of God?

I'd guess its the one of 'since you weren't there at the start of the big bang, how can you prove god wasn't there to make it happen' one.

Offline SGOS

Re: Proofs of God
« Reply #5 on: December 06, 2017, 09:11:52 PM »
I'd guess its the one of 'since you weren't there at the start of the big bang, how can you prove god wasn't there to make it happen' one.
What would that be?  Perhaps the argument from ignorance:  "You don't know, so it must be from God" ??

Online Munch

Re: Proofs of God
« Reply #6 on: December 06, 2017, 09:36:06 PM »
What would that be?  Perhaps the argument from ignorance:  "You don't know, so it must be from God" ??

sounds about right. Which is also why the majority of scientists are atheist or agnostic, being the pursuit of science is to grow upon what it already knows.

Offline Sal1981

Re: Proofs of God
« Reply #7 on: December 07, 2017, 10:22:28 AM »
Argument from ignorance, just because I wasn't there to witness something, doesn't mean that something did or didn't happen.
"The first principle is that you must not fool yourself - and you are the easiest person to fool" --- Richard P. Feynman

Offline pr126

Re: Proofs of God
« Reply #8 on: December 07, 2017, 10:34:29 AM »
Welcome to our Muslim poster. A rare honor indeed.

Don't scare him away, we need to learn the TRUTH.

Bring on the dawah!



 
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“True Ignorance is not the absence of knowledge but the refusal to acquire it.” - Karl Popper

Offline trdsf

Re: Proofs of God
« Reply #9 on: December 07, 2017, 10:43:06 AM »
I wonder.  What do you suppose is the most commonly used fallacy as proof of God?
Probably "You can't prove it wasn't, so it was!"
"It's hard to be religious when certain people are never incinerated by bolts of lightning." -- Calvin and Hobbes
"I thought I committed regicide today, but I committed deicide!" -- Sadie Doyle, Beyond Belief

Offline SGOS

Re: Proofs of God
« Reply #10 on: December 07, 2017, 10:46:20 AM »
Argument from ignorance, just because I wasn't there to witness something, doesn't mean that something did or didn't happen.
I was trying to take Munch's example and identify the fallacy bag it comes from.  This example, like most theist reasoning, includes little twists and turns with bits of various fallacies that work in chorus that cause the argument to fail.  You are exactly right, however.  Just because a bit of reasoning doesn't fit well into a common fallacy, doesn't mean it passes logical scrutiny.

Offline SGOS

Re: Proofs of God
« Reply #11 on: December 07, 2017, 10:47:31 AM »
Probably "You can't prove it wasn't, so it was!"
That's the argument from ignorance, isn't it, or am I missing something?

Offline Sal1981

Re: Proofs of God
« Reply #12 on: December 07, 2017, 10:50:19 AM »
There's a plethora of arguments from ignorance. This one is basically about not witnessing something, therefore true/false.
"The first principle is that you must not fool yourself - and you are the easiest person to fool" --- Richard P. Feynman

Re: Proofs of God
« Reply #13 on: December 07, 2017, 12:07:14 PM »
Just another drive-by-troll.  Typical, nothing special. 
Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?
Then he is not omnipotent,
Is he able but not willing?
Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able or willing?
Then why call him god?

Offline trdsf

Re: Proofs of God
« Reply #14 on: December 07, 2017, 12:15:39 PM »
That's the argument from ignorance, isn't it, or am I missing something?
And shifting the burden of proof.
"It's hard to be religious when certain people are never incinerated by bolts of lightning." -- Calvin and Hobbes
"I thought I committed regicide today, but I committed deicide!" -- Sadie Doyle, Beyond Belief