Trump, Twitter and the Libyan Slave Trade

Started by Shiranu, December 01, 2017, 03:50:18 AM

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Shiranu




3:20 to get to the serious bit. One of the longest segments I've seen with no laughter, and basically no jokes, from Trevor.

I have said it time, and time, and time again here... words have consequences, even words you write on forums. I don't call bigots out because I am enjoying it, that it's making me feel better... I am calling them out because what is said on here is repeated on facebook, repeated on youtube, repeated at the voting booth and then repeated by bigoted politicians like Trump. And in this instance, it is being used to defend slave auctioning in North Africa.
"A little science distances you from God, but a lot of science brings you nearer to Him." - Louis Pasteur

Baruch

But ... Libya is on Obama and Hillary.  And slavery is real in the US, not just Libya.  The "coyotes" in Libya (human traffickers) are simply practicing capitalism with people who can't pay for their free trip to Europe ;-(

Doesn't excuse making jokes about it, but I consider the overthrow of Qaddafi to be more serious than Tweeting.
Ha’át’íísh baa naniná?
Azee’ Å,a’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
What are you doing?
Are you taking any medications?
Don't do that.

chill98

#2
cnn is fake news.  If it was real news, it would have reported on the libya slave trade back in april, like the guardian did:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/apr/10/libya-public-slave-auctions-un-migration

Like infowars did:

https://www.infowars.com/the-last-country-we-liberated-from-an-evil-dictator-is-now-openly-trading-slaves/

And it is much worse than what you have read.  CNN was supposedly given video of women and children being sold off, video given back in april...  And worse.  But you would need to seek out alt media for that info.

But!

Then they would be inconvenienced by who is responsible for this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fgcd1ghag5Y

I posted long ago about libya and the oil/gold motivation. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XCtIdpBocNA

one world government?  No thanks!

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2011/mar/17/un-security-council-resolution

Look Deeper little parrot.  Qaddafi was fighting islamic extremists within his borders.  Rumor has it, US backed islamic extremists...

EDIT
Meh, no point in waiting for self-discovery.  One month before the election:

https://www.politico.com/story/2016/10/marc-turi-libyan-rebels-hillary-clinton-229115


Draconic Aiur

Quote from: Baruch on December 01, 2017, 05:57:41 AM
But ... Libya is on Obama and Hillary.  And slavery is real in the US, not just Libya.  The "coyotes" in Libya (human traffickers) are simply practicing capitalism with people who can't pay for their free trip to Europe ;-(

Doesn't excuse making jokes about it, but I consider the overthrow of Qaddafi to be more serious than Tweeting.

Trump's tweets are an embarrassment to the U.S. A.

And I say this looking at all the presidents whether left or right, a president is the one who should have high standards and be more of an adult.


chill98

Quote from: Draconic Aiur on December 01, 2017, 12:47:26 PM
Trump's tweets are an embarrassment to the U.S. A.

And I say this looking at all the presidents whether left or right, a president is the one who should have high standards and be more of an adult.

While I am not a twitter user, I dont see a problem with Trump using this format.  Could you point to a particular tweet that you find embarrassing?

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump

Draconic Aiur

Quote from: chill98 on December 01, 2017, 05:55:57 PM
While I am not a twitter user, I dont see a problem with Trump using this format.  Could you point to a particular tweet that you find embarrassing?

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump

Could you just be ash?

Baruch

#7
Quote from: pr126 on December 01, 2017, 02:09:19 PM
  How Obama Brought Back Muslim Enslavement of Black People

Court Jews ... work for Gentile overlords, and screw the Jewish people.  Think Soros.

House Blacks ... do the same thing.  President Obama, Colin Powell, Justice Thomas ... are House Blacks ... Oreos, Uncle Toms.

African-Americans have been played, by both parties since at least 1875.  Jews also ... all minorities must do the cake walk.
Ha’át’íísh baa naniná?
Azee’ Å,a’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
What are you doing?
Are you taking any medications?
Don't do that.

Baruch

Quote from: chill98 on December 01, 2017, 05:55:57 PM
While I am not a twitter user, I dont see a problem with Trump using this format.  Could you point to a particular tweet that you find embarrassing?

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump

Some of us are uncomfortable with the 21st century, we want a President who is dignified, who says everything diplomatically and politely, a gentleman.  And who lets the Big Three (ABC, CBS, NBC) ... explain to us primitives, what the President meant.
Ha’át’íísh baa naniná?
Azee’ Å,a’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
What are you doing?
Are you taking any medications?
Don't do that.

chill98

Quote from: Baruch on December 01, 2017, 06:50:50 PM
  And who lets the Big Three (ABC, CBS, NBC) ... explain to us primitives, what the President meant.
And that is the real problem; preferring to let others explain the meaning. 

Baruch

Quote from: chill98 on December 01, 2017, 07:22:18 PM
And that is the real problem; preferring to let others explain the meaning.

I remember when that was the way things were ... we were totally dependent on a favorite TV station, and a local newspaper.  And for children and young adults ... they think they know it all, so even though they need explanation from a more mature person, they aren't open to it ;-)  But we aren't to stay children, stay immature forever.
Ha’át’íísh baa naniná?
Azee’ Å,a’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
What are you doing?
Are you taking any medications?
Don't do that.

Shiranu

Quote from: chill98 on December 01, 2017, 06:34:08 AM
cnn is fake news.  If it was real news, it would have reported on the libya slave trade back in april, like the guardian did:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/apr/10/libya-public-slave-auctions-un-migration

Like infowars did:

https://www.infowars.com/the-last-country-we-liberated-from-an-evil-dictator-is-now-openly-trading-slaves/

And it is much worse than what you have read.  CNN was supposedly given video of women and children being sold off, video given back in april...  And worse.  But you would need to seek out alt media for that info.

But!

Then they would be inconvenienced by who is responsible for this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fgcd1ghag5Y

I posted long ago about libya and the oil/gold motivation. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XCtIdpBocNA

one world government?  No thanks!

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2011/mar/17/un-security-council-resolution

Look Deeper little parrot.  Qaddafi was fighting islamic extremists within his borders.  Rumor has it, US backed islamic extremists...

EDIT
Meh, no point in waiting for self-discovery.  One month before the election:

https://www.politico.com/story/2016/10/marc-turi-libyan-rebels-hillary-clinton-229115



And what exactly does this have to do with Trumps words being used to justify and defend slave auctioning in 2017?

Quote from: pr126 on December 01, 2017, 02:09:19 PM
  How Obama Brought Back Muslim Enslavement of Black People

And what exactly does this have to do with Trumps words being used to justify and defend slave auctioning in 2017?
"A little science distances you from God, but a lot of science brings you nearer to Him." - Louis Pasteur

chill98

Quote from: Shiranu on December 02, 2017, 02:48:18 PM
And what exactly does this have to do with Trumps words being used to justify and defend slave auctioning in 2017?
Trumps words are not being used to justify and defend slavery.  Muhammads words are. Nowhere in your stoopid video is any of what you claim being said.

And you know that.

Why are you not outraged that CNN sat on this story for over 6 months??

Trumps Tweet Aug 23, 2011:

As bad as Quaddafi was --- what comes next will in Libya will be even worse --- just watch.

Source:
https://twitter.com/realFFK


Shiranu

#13
QuoteTrumps words are not being used to justify and defend slavery.  Muhammads words are. Nowhere in your stoopid video is any of what you claim being said.

*Stupid.

Since you are too "stoopid" to comprehend it in video form, here it is in text.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/nov/28/libya-slave-trade-cnn-report-trump-fake-news

QuoteA tweet by Donald Trump accusing CNN of purveying “fake news” has been seized on by Libyan media to challenge a report by the US broadcaster which suggested modern day slave auctions were being held in the country.

Libyan diplomats in Africa have also hit back at the CNN reports, saying they were designed to tarnish the image of Libya. The Libyan broadcaster also highlighted a statement by the Niger ambassdor to Libya denying it had any knowledge of a Nigerien citizen being sold as a slave in Libya.


Let's break that down; "challenging a report... suggesting modern day slave auctions were being held in the country".


Challenging. That. It. Is. Happening.That sounds a lot like defending it, by denying it happens. Probably because that is defending it by denying it happens, using tweets by Donald Trump to put it in question.

QuoteWhy are you not outraged that CNN sat on this story for over 6 months??


Because that's not what this story is about.

Why are you so intent on finding any way to squirm out of admitting your candidate's words are being used to defend modern day slave auctioning?


And while we are on the topic; are you still denying Trump is racist after he shares several racist tweets from a far-right hate group? Are you denying that he is a chronic sexual harasser as even more and more evidence comes out that it's even worse than thought?


Are you aware of just how terrible, incompetent and utterly unfit for the presidency he is, and just cant admit you are wrong? Let me quote someone a post or two ago who I think was trying to be snarky but failed just like his idol...


QuoteYou know that.
"A little science distances you from God, but a lot of science brings you nearer to Him." - Louis Pasteur

chill98

#14
Quote from: Shiranu on December 02, 2017, 06:19:49 PM
*Stupid.

Since you are too "stoopid" to comprehend it in video form, here it is in text.

Let's break that down; "challenging a report... suggesting modern day slave auctions were being held in the country".

Well now, here is your original words:

Quote from: ShiranuAnd in this instance, it is being used to defend slave auctioning in North Africa.
Quote from: Shiranu on December 02, 2017, 06:19:49 PM
Challenging. That. It. Is. Happening.That sounds a lot like defending it, by denying it happens. Probably because that is defending it by denying it happens, using tweets by Donald Trump to put it in question.

Because that's not what this story is about.

Are you trying to claim that these Libyan officials would never have denied slave auctions within their country anyways?   As if Trump tweets are responsible for the real issue, Islamic slave operations within Libya.  That is what makes this whole story a joke.

And this just exemplifies your disconnect from reality.  You think the issue is Trump tweets when the real issue is the USA and NATO overthrew a legitimate government on the false basis that Quaddafi was attacking civilians.  The motivation for the US getting involved was Libyan internal decisions on Libyan oil and Gold backed money which would have increased Libyan prosperity.   We killed a legitimate leader of a sovereign country over oil and gold. 

https://www.foreignpolicyjournal.com/2016/01/06/new-hillary-emails-reveal-true-motive-for-libya-intervention/

Each and every day I am grateful that Crooked Hillary did not become president.  Trump is not perfect but he was absolutely the lesser of two evils in this election.  The video you posted was completely stoopid and irrelevant to the situation created by the Obama admin in Libya. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XHbrOg092GA