Author Topic: Flat Earther does rocket science  (Read 536 times)

Offline Baruch

Re: Flat Earther does rocket science
« Reply #15 on: November 22, 2017, 12:45:26 AM »
I'll support the "flat earth theory"....when I was in Iceland, working for the military, it was daylight 24 hours a day.   All the better to see those hot ass Icelandic women.....

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Offline Baruch

Re: Flat Earther does rocket science
« Reply #16 on: November 22, 2017, 12:46:20 AM »
I was at Democratic dinner one time where all the Democratic candidates for one of Montana's senatorial seats showed up to speak and pitch themselves.  They were your typical politicians, all experienced and well qualified, except for one guy who reminded me of your rocket man.  The only qualification that he pitched was that he was a former alcoholic who had overcome his problem.  I guess if you can do that, you are qualified to represent a state.  In addition, he showed up wearing a clown outfit, big red round nose and all,  and walked around holding the strings of about 25 helium balloons.  He held onto them even during his speech.  I dunno, maybe he was trying to make some kind of subtle statement about his opinion of politics, but he talked like he was super serious about his campaign.  I don't recall if he actually showed up on the primary ballot or not.

Definitely my kind of candidate ... from Church of Dischordianism?
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Online Mr.Obvious

Re: Flat Earther does rocket science
« Reply #17 on: November 22, 2017, 02:56:09 AM »
Someone Should give him a prize for his will and effort.

I'm pretty sure a Darwin a award will soon become an option.
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Re: Flat Earther does rocket science
« Reply #18 on: November 22, 2017, 05:28:51 AM »
Someone Should give him a prize for his will and effort.

I'm pretty sure a Darwin a award will soon become an option.
Not at 61 years old.
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Offline SGOS

Re: Flat Earther does rocket science
« Reply #19 on: November 22, 2017, 06:18:51 AM »
Steam generates a tremendous force, and would be a great way to power a rocket.  Maybe not for interstellar travel, but plenty good enough for getting to the moon.  And once out of the atmosphere were you can pollute without smudging up the air, you can boil the water using wood burners.  We have lots of wood, and it would make a very cost effective rocket fuel.

Offline SGOS

Re: Flat Earther does rocket science
« Reply #20 on: November 22, 2017, 06:26:28 AM »
Speaking of Alaska, how the hell are native Americans supposed to get from Asia to North America on that?  Or Polynesians to Hawaii?  Commodore Perry might've been in for one hell of a shock, too.
You just follow the edge of the disk.  This is called the great circle route, and it's the shortest line of travel if you have to go more than forty miles.  Otherwise a straight line works better.

Re: Flat Earther does rocket science
« Reply #21 on: November 22, 2017, 07:08:03 AM »
Steam generates a tremendous force, and would be a great way to power a rocket.  Maybe not for interstellar travel, but plenty good enough for getting to the moon.  And once out of the atmosphere were you can pollute without smudging up the air, you can boil the water using wood burners.  We have lots of wood, and it would make a very cost effective rocket fuel.
But it's very inefficient. You'd never lift the wood needed to get a steam rocket to the Moon. Highly compressed hydrogen would burn nicely, but the ancillary equipment would reduce that advantage.

(I was a  Machinist Mate in the USN, working on steam turbines. We needed a three story high boiler to produce 70,000 hp.)
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Offline Baruch

Re: Flat Earther does rocket science
« Reply #22 on: November 22, 2017, 07:12:36 AM »
But it's very inefficient. You'd never lift the wood needed to get a steam rocket to the Moon. Highly compressed hydrogen would burn nicely, but the ancillary equipment would reduce that advantage.

(I was a  Machinist Mate in the USN, working on steam turbines. We needed a three story high boiler to produce 70,000 hp.)

Ship engines are huge ... too bad you weren't limited to sails ;-)
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Offline Baruch

Re: Flat Earther does rocket science
« Reply #23 on: November 22, 2017, 07:14:52 AM »
You just follow the edge of the disk.  This is called the great circle route, and it's the shortest line of travel if you have to go more than forty miles.  Otherwise a straight line works better.

That constituted immediate proof of Earth as a sphere, but didn't get proven until early 19th century (by Gauss in Germany) ... by that time the survivors of Magellan's pleasure cruise had prove the point already.  Gauss also hoped to prove Einstein's GTR ... 100 years early ... to prove or disprove the physical relevance of Euclid.  But his instruments couldn't be sensitive enough.  We now prove this in Earth orbit, for GPS.

Further exact surveying of the 19th century in British India, showed that something gravitational was throwing things off.  This proved that the Himalaya mountains, had deep roots, causing the plumb bob to lean a little off vertical, toward those mountains.  Charting the systematic error, was revealing.  That or it was Shangri-La ;-)
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Offline Luther Martini

Re: Flat Earther does rocket science
« Reply #24 on: November 22, 2017, 07:27:46 AM »
Someone Should give him a prize for his will and effort.

I'm pretty sure a Darwin a award will soon become an option.

Darwin award indeed.   When I first read the article, the story of this nitwit riding a home built rocket into the sky reminded me of a Darwin award from the past.  Although the story was later debunked, the award was supposedly given to a man in Arizona who had attached a JATO (jet assisted take off) rocket to a car, and of course, ignited the rocket while driving said vehicle.  As the story goes, the unrecognizable remains of the car were found  by the highway patrol, embedded into the side of a mountain.  Adding a bit of flair to the tale, one piece of the vehicle that did survive was a portion of the rear bumper, to which was affixed a bumper sticker that read "Don't like my driving ... call 1-800-EAT-SHIT".

Re: Flat Earther does rocket science
« Reply #25 on: November 22, 2017, 07:40:34 AM »
Darwin award indeed.   When I first read the article, the story of this nitwit riding a home built rocket into the sky reminded me of a Darwin award from the past.  Although the story was later debunked, the award was supposedly given to a man in Arizona who had attached a JATO (jet assisted take off) rocket to a car, and of course, ignited the rocket while driving said vehicle.  As the story goes, the unrecognizable remains of the car were found  by the highway patrol, embedded into the side of a mountain.  Adding a bit of flair to the tale, one piece of the vehicle that did survive was a portion of the rear bumper, to which was affixed a bumper sticker that read "Don't like my driving ... call 1-800-EAT-SHIT".
Yeah, that was the first Mythbusters episode.

However, the lunatics I hang out with are trying to build a pulse jet, like the used on the Buzz Bombs (V-1). They plan to mount it INSIDE a station wagon (estate car?). They are, of course, insane. That's why we're friends.
We 'new atheists' have a reputation for being militant, but make no mistake  we didn't start this war. If you want to place blame put it on the the religious zealots who have been poisoning the minds of the  young for a long long time."
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Offline Atheon

Re: Flat Earther does rocket science
« Reply #26 on: November 22, 2017, 01:41:05 PM »
How high up does he hope to fly?

Amboy, eh? On old Route 66. Camped there once.

I expect he's going to be nothing more than a dark spot on the damp side of a canyon wall.
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Re: Flat Earther does rocket science
« Reply #27 on: November 22, 2017, 03:16:11 PM »
How high up does he hope to fly?

Amboy, eh? On old Route 66. Camped there once.

I expect he's going to be nothing more than a dark spot on the damp side of a canyon wall.
He's shooting for 1,800 feet, less than 550 meters. Quite enough to give him the proof he wants.
We 'new atheists' have a reputation for being militant, but make no mistake  we didn't start this war. If you want to place blame put it on the the religious zealots who have been poisoning the minds of the  young for a long long time."
PZ Myers

Re: Flat Earther does rocket science
« Reply #28 on: November 22, 2017, 07:20:19 PM »
This flat earth stuff falls apart extremely easily just given basic facts about the world and a light application of logic.
Yep, same with the god stuff. But it doesn't seem to slow that crowd down much either.
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Re: Flat Earther does rocket science
« Reply #29 on: November 23, 2017, 12:50:33 AM »
1800 ft it not high enough to hit the glass ceiling, but its impressive for steam... unless you’re a shooter on an aircraft carrier.

We need to find out where the flat earthers get their stache, cause its good stuff.
not expecting god to show up, but if he does we’re going to have to beat the prick up.