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Started by Baruch, November 20, 2017, 06:44:01 PM

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Baruch

Quote from: Cavebear on December 26, 2017, 10:55:52 AM
LOL!  My opinions about the JBS and KKK can't be posted even here.  But I will consider wishing them an Early Christian Hell.  For a few minutes.  Even I can't be so cruel as most deities...

Careful you don't spontaneously combust.  All the characters we project, reside in our Id.  Just ask the Krell.
Ha’át’íísh baa naniná?
Azee’ Å,a’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
What are you doing?
Are you taking any medications?
Don't do that.

Cavebear

Quote from: Baruch on December 26, 2017, 03:17:21 PM
Careful you don't spontaneously combust.  All the characters we project, reside in our Id.  Just ask the Krell.

My Id, Ego, and Superego are quite well attuned, thankyouverymuch...  We discuss me constantly.
Atheist born, atheist bred.  And when I die, atheist dead!

Jason Harvestdancer

The electric car as it is currently situated is a scam.  It wouldn't exist if it weren't heavily subsidized by the government, and even then the price tag means it is being subsidized for the benefit of the rich.  They have yet to build one that would be worthwhile for the average person - fast refill time, good distance, convenient refill locations.

Even then, the ones with the best mileage only achieve that if you don't use any accessories, such as radio or air conditioning.

If you need to go 10 miles into town and 10 miles back, then it could be good enough.  If you need to go 30 miles to work like I do, the good ones can almost get you there.

The powers that be like it for several reasons.  The first is because, as Baruch pointed out, the pollution cost is well hidden.  They don't pollute at the tailpipe ... but the electricity does come from somewhere.  Second, their distance is limited, keeping us serfs from having too much mobility.  Third, they are expensive, forcing us serfs onto public transit.
White privilege is being a lifelong racist, then being sent to the White House twice because your running mate is a minority.<br /><br />No Biden, no KKK, no Fascist USA!

Jason78

Where are you getting your information from Jason? 

Nissan Leaf
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tragedy of life is when men are afraid of the light. -Plato

Jason Harvestdancer

White privilege is being a lifelong racist, then being sent to the White House twice because your running mate is a minority.<br /><br />No Biden, no KKK, no Fascist USA!

Baruch

Quote from: Jason Harvestdancer on February 04, 2018, 10:15:18 PM
The electric car as it is currently situated is a scam.  It wouldn't exist if it weren't heavily subsidized by the government, and even then the price tag means it is being subsidized for the benefit of the rich.  They have yet to build one that would be worthwhile for the average person - fast refill time, good distance, convenient refill locations.

Even then, the ones with the best mileage only achieve that if you don't use any accessories, such as radio or air conditioning.

If you need to go 10 miles into town and 10 miles back, then it could be good enough.  If you need to go 30 miles to work like I do, the good ones can almost get you there.

The powers that be like it for several reasons.  The first is because, as Baruch pointed out, the pollution cost is well hidden.  They don't pollute at the tailpipe ... but the electricity does come from somewhere.  Second, their distance is limited, keeping us serfs from having too much mobility.  Third, they are expensive, forcing us serfs onto public transit.

Successful socialism, including corporate socialism, relies on displaced income and expenses ... so that the balance sheet can be massaged.  But then so does the Tragedy of the Commons.  When you don't account for all cash and credit streams, it is easy to think that economics is magical.
Ha’át’íísh baa naniná?
Azee’ Å,a’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
What are you doing?
Are you taking any medications?
Don't do that.

Jason78

Quote from: Jason Harvestdancer on February 05, 2018, 10:08:17 AM
Eric Peters Autos.

Then may I suggest you might want to find a more reliable source.
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We can easily forgive a child who is afraid of the dark; the real
tragedy of life is when men are afraid of the light. -Plato

Unbeliever

#142
Quote from: Baruch on December 26, 2017, 03:17:21 PM
Careful you don't spontaneously combust.  All the characters we project, reside in our Id.  Just ask the Krell.

Oh, no, monsters from the Id!

God Not Found
"There is a sucker born-again every minute." - C. Spellman

Baruch

Where did you get the image of a typical triggered college student? ;-)  Gotta use blasters (that is what they called them in 1954) to keep them from trashing the whole campus.
Ha’át’íísh baa naniná?
Azee’ Å,a’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
What are you doing?
Are you taking any medications?
Don't do that.

Unbeliever

Quote from: Baruch on February 05, 2018, 06:30:16 PM
Where did you get the image of a typical triggered college student? ;-)

Just googled "monsters from the id" - it's from Forbidden Planet, the precursor to Star Trek.
God Not Found
"There is a sucker born-again every minute." - C. Spellman

Baruch

Quote from: Unbeliever on February 05, 2018, 06:45:56 PM
Just googled "monsters from the id" - it's from Forbidden Planet, the precursor to Star Trek.

Rhetorical question .. no need to answer.  Dr Morbius.
Ha’át’íísh baa naniná?
Azee’ Å,a’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
What are you doing?
Are you taking any medications?
Don't do that.

Jason Harvestdancer

Okay, I exaggerated about the limited range of the electric car, but it does have a range/recharge issue.  If I were to visit my in-laws, I have to drive 400 miles.  I can refuel my gas car in less than 10 minutes as well.
White privilege is being a lifelong racist, then being sent to the White House twice because your running mate is a minority.<br /><br />No Biden, no KKK, no Fascist USA!

Unbeliever

Quote from: Baruch on February 05, 2018, 07:02:23 PM
Rhetorical question .. no need to answer.  Dr Morbius.
Yes, I knew that, but there may be other readers who wanted to know about it.
God Not Found
"There is a sucker born-again every minute." - C. Spellman

Hydra009

#148
Quote from: Jason Harvestdancer on February 05, 2018, 07:53:28 PM
Okay, I exaggerated about the limited range of the electric car, but it does have a range/recharge issue.  If I were to visit my in-laws, I have to drive 400 miles.  I can refuel my gas car in less than 10 minutes as well.
They're working on that.  Range is arguably a minor problem, since models with 100-200+ mile ranges are now fairly common.  Granted, if you're regularly undertaking 400 mile journeys, that might be a problem, but the average person's daily needs are much less demanding.

Recharging can now take <30 minutes with quick charging systems.  Then there's overnight residential charging (a several-hour recharge time doesn't matter if it occurs while you're sleeping) and potentially, wireless charging (recharge while you're parked) or simply swap out batteries.

I predict that both range and recharge times will only improve as new technologies come into play.

Baruch

Quote from: Jason Harvestdancer on February 05, 2018, 07:53:28 PM
Okay, I exaggerated about the limited range of the electric car, but it does have a range/recharge issue.  If I were to visit my in-laws, I have to drive 400 miles.  I can refuel my gas car in less than 10 minutes as well.

You just have to move into the same house as your in-laws and other relatives ;-)  Then the travel distance is much shorter.  You won't even need a bicycle, and you will look swell in your Mao jacket, proclaiming your fealty to Hillary Kim Un.
Ha’át’íísh baa naniná?
Azee’ Å,a’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
What are you doing?
Are you taking any medications?
Don't do that.